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Javi
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Javi asked on 03 Jun 2008, 02:27 PM
Hello,

We are using the trial version of ths RadControls for ASP.NET AJAX. It's a great suite and we are going to purchase it. But we have a big issue that prevent us about this purchase. That's the only point we need to have it solved before.

We have the main dll referenced in a Web Application Project. We use Visual Studio 2008, and .NET 3.5.

It compiles and run without any problem. But sometimes (a lot of them), when we stop the application while debugging, and make some changes on the code (nothing related to Telerik RadControls), when we try to apply changes and continue debugging, the compiler fails with the following error:

Metadata file ‘Telerik.Web.UI dll' could not be opened -- 'Not enough storage is available to process this command'

As you would expect, that's terribly annoying, having to stop and recompile, and having the "Edit and Continue" feature as it was disabled.

Can you help us?

Thanks

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Paul
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answered on 03 Jun 2008, 02:39 PM
Hello Javi,

After some research, it turned out that this error occurs if there are no more available resources on the computer (most likely RAM). Perhaps there is a special combination of controls that cause this behavior. Are you able to reproduce it consistently with one page? If yes, then please send us this page so we can do some more tests.

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answered on 03 Jun 2008, 03:36 PM
Dear Paul,

We are trying to use the suite on a quite big CMS system that references a lot of assemblies and a lot of code, so we can not send you a specefic page. Also, it does not happens on a single page. It happens randomly, when we stop the running application for debugging in any part of the code, regardless this page is using the RadEditor or not.

Before asking for help, we expect that it could be a problem of memory, but we are running quite below of the phisycal memory. We also have increased the memory page, but the problem keeps hapenning.

Let me note that it happens on three different computers where we have been trying the component.

It's a a key for us to have this issue solved before purchasing the suite, as we can not work having to restart every time we need to do an "Edit and Continue" change. Maybe it does not happen with the purchased code, but we can not test this scenario.

Let me say that we have not installed the library on the GAC, we have set the dll in a directory and then reference it on our project.

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Erjan Gavalji
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answered on 05 Jun 2008, 03:19 PM
Hi Javi,

The trial version of the RadControls for ASP.NET Ajax suite is the same as the dev one, with the difference of a trial message popping up from time to time. There are no differences from a Visual Studio debugger perspective. The error you mentioned in the first post happens when the Visual Studio IDE starts consuming too much resources in the debugger. It could depend on any action you do (e.g. try setting the indexer of a loop while the breakpoint is in the loop body, etc.).

Just to ensure this is not related to the RadControls, can you try removing the controls from the application and replacing them with a respective simple ASP.NET control (e.g. RadComboBox -> dropdownlist)?

Can you also try reproducing the problem in a smaller project and send it to us with the steps to reproduce?

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Josep
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answered on 09 Jun 2008, 05:21 PM
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Michael Warden
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answered on 11 Oct 2008, 04:20 AM
I'm having this same issue on a VS 2003 page with non-prometheus tools with radeditor on radtabstrips but it's happening in production.  actually never happens in devlopment.  Other then iisreset and rebooting the server (which didn't work), any ideas what would cause this on a production server?
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Rob Schieber
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answered on 02 Dec 2009, 07:01 AM
Hi Im having the same issue also.  Our solution is to phase out the telerik controls from our solution since their support sucks and their product provides nothing that cant be done via jquery.
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Sebastian
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answered on 02 Dec 2009, 10:36 AM
Hello Rob,

I am sorry to hear that you had negative experience with our controls so far.

Have you tried to the solution from the blog post linked previously in this forum thread which seems to be helpful to the other guys? Does restarting your Visual Studio eliminate the error concerning memory storage? Let us know what the results are.

Concerning your comment about our support service:
I checked your account and found that you used trial versions of our controls and had a single forum post about combobox which has been answered by one of my colleagues. I am providing a link to it below:

http://www.telerik.com/community/forums/aspnet-ajax/combobox/radcombobox-loadondemand-items-null.aspx

Have you had other communication through a different support channel which made you conclude that you are not content with our support service? I will gladly review it and provide more details concerning the concrete cases to help you out further in your development.

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Rob Schieber
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answered on 02 Dec 2009, 11:17 AM
Thanks for your quick reply.   No, I haven't tried the steps one of your users pointed to in the article "how to hack visual studio to use > 2 gb of RAM."   Have you guys tried it?  Were you able to reproduce it?  If restarting visual studio or hacking visual studio to support > 2 GB of RAM is indeed the solution then it would be nice to see a response from the telerik team confirming this as the steps I should take to resolve the problem instead of leaving me to figure everything out. 

My assessment of your support may have been a bit harsh, but I was already frustrated with other problems such as the fact that our team hasn't been able to upgrade any of our controls due to unsupported backwards compatibility issues on RadScheduler and other controls.  Having the RadControls regularly crash Visual Studio on top of those things is a bit much for me to handle.  Sorry.
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Sebastian
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answered on 02 Dec 2009, 11:42 AM
Hello Rob,

I think that we get several reports concerning this subject in the past and the issue turned our to be VS-related (I personally came upon this error a couple of times when building/debugging large ASP.NET projects without RadControls involved). Restarting Visual Studio did the trick for me, I assume that increasing the available RAM would have the same effect.

Indeed we introduced some breaking changes in RadScheduler with the Q3 2009 release that are listed in this article from the documentation along with the necessary replacements. Please excuse us if they caused you trouble and hope that the information from the topic will help you complete the upgrade successfully.

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