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Scott asked on 03 Oct 2020, 07:13 PM

My company pays a lot of money to download CODE not use NuGet. If I login with a valid paid for login, I should get ALL we paid for. Instead, you now force me to use NuGet even though I download a zip file. This is wrong.

I have been downloading and using Telerik products since before Kendo, way back in 2010 and this change upsets me. Please reconsider and give us back what we paid for - files. In other words, like it used to be. There was ZERO reason to change this. Keep customers happy or you may lose them!

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answered on 03 Oct 2020, 07:17 PM
To be clear, I don't want to install NuGet CLI on the download machine. And the download machine does not have Visual Studio. I just need all the files in the zip file with zero work to do after the download. Why is this not provided? If it is provided, where is it because I have looked and looked and missed it.
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answered on 03 Oct 2020, 07:47 PM

To update, the downloading of the NuGet CLI using the instructions on the Kendo web seemed to accomplish nothing as I could not figure out how to get the files. I accidentally discovered 7-zip would extract the files. However, I had to extract each dpl one by one and then drill down to the correct folder under lib. So after 30 minutes of extra work, I got what I wanted in the first place.See attached.

 

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answered on 08 Oct 2020, 05:47 AM

Hello Scott,

Apart from installing through NuGet, in your Telerik Account you can download the .msi file to install the package and the zip files for the source code. Am I missing some details here?

Looking forward to your reply.

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answered on 08 Oct 2020, 12:16 PM

What I want is simply the way it used to be up until recently - the .zip file contained ALL the files. Now, it contains nupkg files.

Why?The zip file option should not suddenly contain nupkg files.

I can't use nupkg files. I should see dll's in those folders.

See the attachments.

So, to reiterate, I want the zip file download to contain dll's and zero nupkg files.


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answered on 08 Oct 2020, 12:20 PM
I also tried the source download. It has the same problems. I do not want to use the msi. Never have before. Zip files have always had the entire set of files needed. Now, it has nupkg files that have to be dealt with in order to get the binaries inside them.
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answered on 13 Oct 2020, 10:22 AM

Hello Scott,

The standard way to distribute and install in ASP.Net Core is through NuGet packages. I tested downloading older version zips and nupkg files were delivered then as well. Dlls are available in the UI for ASP.Net MVC package

Let me know if I am missing something, or if you have any further questions.

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Martin
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answered on 13 Oct 2020, 12:18 PM

I disagree. The zip download never contained Nuget packages until the last one or two releases. Also, nupkg files in a zip are not standard. When I download any zip anywhere, I expect it to contain all the files that I need. I should not have to do additional work.

** Please enter an official request to always provide a download option that contains all the files we paid for.**

I urge anybody that agrees to let Telerik know how you feel.

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answered on 16 Oct 2020, 11:16 AM

Hello, Scott,

Thank you for your feedback and suggestion.

With the distribution of the nuget package, we do follow the approach that Microsoft uses for libraries distribution in ASP.NET Core. As you most certainly know, these packages may contain a set of libraries, which are also accessible. That said, you can easily access the containing dlls when the project is built. The build dlls will be located in the bin/debug folder of your application.
Besides the source code, zip files, and nupkg packages, we distributed our online demos (as a vs project) and documentation (pdf), in order to provide you with everything that is needed.

However, if you feel that you need to have these artifacts as another download option - I would advise logging this as a feature request in our public feedback portal:
https://feedback.telerik.com/aspnet-core-ui 

As for the availability of the Nuget package, I can assure you that this is the approach for distribution that we use for the Telerik UI for ASP.NET Core as of the beginning of our product.  Attached you can see a screenshot, backing from 2018 distribution.

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