WPF Controls

[Michael Blanchet]

I am running VS2010 RC 1 with the 2010.1 version of RadControls. I have installed the WPF, SIlverlight and ASP.net AJax controls. I now have the Telerik Menu option in VS and create a Telerik WPF project. There is no Telerik controls Toolbox? Also, when I right click on any of the Telerik control references, they all show a runtime version of 2.0.50727? Where are the version 4 controls?  Also - is there a layout designer toolbar for WPF in VS2010? I don't see that option under Tools-Customize

[Michael Blanchet]

Ok - added the items to the toolbox (RTFM). Still not clear why the controls runtime shows version 2? And do I have to use Expression Blend to have access to layout tools? Does VS2010 have anything other than the basic capability that was in VS2008?

[Boyan]

Hi Michael Blanchet,

 Runtime version says 2.0.50727 because although it is targeting .Net 3.5, this is showing the Runtime version which is still 2.0.50727. The CLR hasn't changed for .NET 3.5 - it's the same runtime version, but with additional libraries, including language enhancements in the compilers. This should not bother you as it is standard for WPF references. You can make new WPF project without using Telerik templates and you can see that all the initial (Microsoft) references have the same Runtime version. This version will only change if you target .Net Framework 4, however our WPF controls are still targeting 3.5.

I don't think there are layout tools in VS2010 however the design surface is more interactive and in my opinion a little bit improved. In general the important changes in VS2010 is the improved designer (now for Silverlight as well), slicker design, support for .NET 4 and Silverlight 4 and improved debugging capabilities. Also a lot of new stuff is available in TFS. For more info you can check this link.


Greetings,
Boyan
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[Michael Blanchet]

My understanding was that version 2010-1 was to be released at the same time as VS2010 .net version 4 and would provide full support. I thought that I was buying WPF and Silverlight version 4 controls. When do you expect to release version 4 controls?

[Boyan]

Hi Michael Blanchet,

Sorry if we have mislead you in any way. Currently we support Silverlight 4 and VS2010 but still .NET Framework 3.5 for WPF. The good news is that with SP2 which is scheduled for the beginning of June, we will provide RadControls for WPF targeting .Net Framework 4.0.

Sorry for the inconvenience, I hope the given time frame is acceptable for you.

Boyan
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[Michael Blanchet]

Thanks Boyan - it would be useful if there was a clearer description of the different Telerik versions and what and when versions will be released.

The timeframe works for my project.

[Boyan]

Hi Michael Blanchet,

Thank you for your feedback, we will try to make the installations and file names more user friendly to avoid such confusions.

Best wishes,
Boyan
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[Eric Hill]

So is it still true that 2010 Q1 SP2 includes controls that target .NET 4.0?  I downloaded the trial, and the binaries included all reference .NET 2.x and .NET 3.x assemblies.  I mean, I have embedded RadTreeView in my .NET 4.0 app and everything seems to work fine.  I do get a lot of compiler warnings (this is C++/CLI):

10>C:\jmpdev\RadControls\source\WinOS\wpf\windowMgr.h(473): warning C4691:
'System::Collections::ObjectModel::ObservableCollection' : type referenced was
expected in unreferenced assembly 'WindowsBase', type defined in current
translation unit used instead <BR>10&gt; This diagnostic occurred while
importing type 'Telerik::Windows::Controls::RadTreeView ' from assembly
'Telerik.Windows.Controls.Navigation, Version=2010.1.603.35, Culture=neutral,
PublicKeyToken=5803cfa389c90ce7'. <BR>

but I can turn those warnings off.  I just want to make sure I haven't missed something.

Thanks,

Eric

[Milan]

Hi Eric Hill,

Our latest release (2010 Q1 SP2) includes controls that target .Net 3.5. With out next release we will also provide binaries that target .Net 4.0. 

Sincerely yours,
Milan
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[Eric Hill]

Thanks, Milan.  So should I have any concern about shipping a .NET 4.0 application that includes 2010 Q1 SP2 controls?  Again, I have seen no issues this far, and the only control we are using at present is RadTreeView.

Thanks,

Eric

[Milan]

Hello Eric Hill,

There should be no problem whatsoever to use such configuration. 

Sincerely yours,
Milan
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