We are enthusiastic to announce the launch of the Telerik Skin Exchange Program – http://www.telerik.com/skins! We have created a meeting place for community members to exchange home-grown skins for the Telerik ASP.NET AJAX components. We know a lot of you have come up with amazing designs for our components and wanted to enable a platform to show these off and help the community. Seeing the tremendous support you guys give to each other every day on our forums and code library, we are confident you will take up on the initiative so we can build up a useful new resource for everyone in the community.

As usual, your efforts will not go unrewarded – we are giving out up to 30,000 Telerik points for each product skin published.

A big thanks in advance to all participants!

The trainer is excellent; thanks to Telerik and Falafel for their hard work in producing a highly worthwhile learning aid.  My one small gripe is that it asks me every time whether I want to delete the temporary files it has made.  Is there an option somewhere we can check that allows the trainer to delete the files each time without asking?  I can't ever see myself wanting to keep them -- what would be the purpose?

Cheers,

Ed

Scott Guthrie's Blog has a post on a technique to embed logical views into a browser's history list.

Here's a link to the blog entry: link

Note, I haven't played with this yet. But the idea seems so useful I wanted to share it right away.

Hello,

Having reviewed the updates and additions in 2007 Q2 release I feel somewhat disappointed. I use RadGrid alot; however, the latest version seems lacking as a new version. The frozen column is a nice feature but the other 4 'new' features seem non-exciting (obviously subjective.) Export to CSV and PDF while nice are not what users care about from my experience (Export to something is important but it already exports to Excel and Word.) RTL support may be important to some and ControlState doesn't seem like a new feature (the explanation is not clear to me on first read.)

Filtering data in a grid is extremely important and yet the filtering does not appear updated. It would seem things like easy filtering of columns using dropdown boxes, calendars, custom selections for each column would have been a great addition for a Grid....much much much much more important than Export to CSV. I know this can be done with custom code, but I use controls to cut down on custom code. Alphabet paging without writing code would be great.A couple more off the top of my head...merging of header cells...merging of same value row cells.

And that is the only ASP.NET control with a new major revision in about 5 months.

I use RadAjax on most of my pages and in my web user controls. It is very time consuming to switch over to the Prometheus version of Ajax because only one manager is allowed on a page. This means a complete retesting of an application. It would have been nice to supply a conversion tool for this control.

My first experience with Prometheus was with the Splitter and it didn't work. Even though this a 'Go Live' product it took about a month for a fix to happen. Not a big deal for a Beta product but I feel expected to use Beta products now or I don't get anything new. This particular Splitter experience really affect my view of all this. I spent 8 hours trying to get a control to work and thinking it was my fault because I didn't understand how to set up my application.

Also, Sitefinity doesn't support Prometheus which is stopping me from using that product because I am afraid of mid development or post development nightmares. 

I  just released a new application and can't upgrade the product in the 'near' future without a recoding of the site.

I feel like development of RadControls for ASP.NET for the most part ceased in April 2007.

Maybe its me but I just have a bad feeling from all of this, like everything is getting more complicated instead of easier.

Thanks for listening,
John

WOW is all I can say about this product.  As a rather newbie to Telerik I have been looking for all the training available.  My company just bought 2 developer seats earlier this week with plans to add a seat each month until all the developers have one.  This training will help us all to get up to speed fast.

I do have a comment/suggestion.  It would be nice if there were some way to make the display screen larger as most people have monitors capable of displaying at least 1280 x 1024.  I have always had a problem with small displays that require one to move the window around or scroll up/down, etc.  I noticed that the overall trainer can be made larger but this does not affect the actual training window.  I guess also that the video itself was probably made with lower resolution to accommodate lower resolution monitors.

But, that said, on a scale of 1 - 10 I give it a 12!  Thanks very much for this awesome tool!

Tom

I'm currently looking at a few issues regarding Partial Rendering and I was wondering how easy (or if it's possible) to change our use of Telerik controls from using Partial Rendering to a more...traditional AJAX approach in order to avoid excessive data sent over the wire?

Please check this forum thread for details:
http://www.telerik.com/community/forums/thread/b311D-bemgdc.aspx

Best Regards,
The Telerik Team

Migrating custom skins created in RadControls for ASP.NET to RadControls for ASP.NET AJAX requires a lot of time because of the following:

 - Steep learning curve to adapt to the new architecture.  Our system goes live in three days and we do not have time for this.  Our system was already working in the previous version of Firefox.  The system having problems with Firefox 3 is irrelevant since the new controls should have been backwards compatible with the old one to begin with.

 - Layout structure is different from previous version. The class and style names have drastically changed from the old version to the new one. The variables contained in CoreTemplates.xml (now part of the window control) has been reduced to two.

 - Basically, any layout used in the previous version is now rendered OBSOLETE in the new one.  It is not simply a matter of copying code from the previous version to the new version. Only the images were reusable, the change in the structure required redesigning on our part.

We experienced the above (not including stress, irritation and cost) for upgrading the RadWindows control only.  Imagine what we have to go through if we upgraded all controls in the system!

How can we be sure that this will not happen again in the future?

Conclusion:

We're not entirely sure if Telerik is the right one for us, thanks goodness we are only in the process of evaluating, and have only done two or three projects using these controls.  However, we do realize these projects now will have to be redone (upgraded), and this would take approximately 3 weeks for one developer, a cost and stress we could do without. One thing is for sure: this is not just a matter of copying over a few dll’s and then you are up and running.  

Are we happy a customer?  Yes and no.  We like the controls, but the risk of using Telerik's controls due to the way they upgrade without any regards for backward compatibility will probably not justify the usage in the future.  It’s simply too risky.  We were told by Telerik to upgrade to make the controls work with the new version for Firefox. That says it all.

This is a posting for Telerik, and we will be happy to see a response from Telerik wherein the issue at hand is addressed.

I have seen the roadmap landing pages up for quite a while, but I haven't seen an actual roadmap.  Am I being dense or are they really just teasing us?

If they do exist, how the heck do you get to them?

Hi,
Microsoft just published roadmap for ASP.NET Ajax.

"In this document we describe some of the proposed features that we are considering investing in future releases of ASP.NET AJAX, Visual Web Developer, and the ASP.NET AJAX Control Toolkit.
We really appreciate your feedback, so this document is intended as much for you to provide an input to our direction as well as to give some indication of what the teams are investing in."

http://www.codeplex.com/aspnet/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=14924

Best regards
Mostafa