Guido Tapia
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Guido Tapia
asked on 18 Feb 2009, 05:19 AM
Just a quick heads up. Though your probably aware of this.
Having a Converter on a column gets ignored by the filters (the filters just display the 'DataMemberPath').
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Hi Guido,
Yes, we are aware of this limitation. We have been debating whether to allow filtering/sorting/grouping to use bindings (and value converters for that matter) for some time, and we are still reluctant to do it because of performance reasons. Binding to an object to fetch its property path and apply the respective value converter can be quite expensive.
Maybe in the future we'll try to detect a more complex property path and/or an applied value converter and if so, we can use bindings for sorting/grouping. That would require us to make customers aware that this option can have performance implications and should be used with small data sets only. What do you think? Will customers, even you, be likely to fall in a debugging/support communication loop because they are unaware of what's killing their performance?
Sincerely yours,
Hristo Deshev
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Yes, we are aware of this limitation. We have been debating whether to allow filtering/sorting/grouping to use bindings (and value converters for that matter) for some time, and we are still reluctant to do it because of performance reasons. Binding to an object to fetch its property path and apply the respective value converter can be quite expensive.
Maybe in the future we'll try to detect a more complex property path and/or an applied value converter and if so, we can use bindings for sorting/grouping. That would require us to make customers aware that this option can have performance implications and should be used with small data sets only. What do you think? Will customers, even you, be likely to fall in a debugging/support communication loop because they are unaware of what's killing their performance?
Sincerely yours,
Hristo Deshev
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Guido Tapia
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answered on 23 Feb 2009, 04:54 AM
I appreciate the performance concerns, but currently using Converters that are ignored in the cases you describe below (filtering, sorting, grouping) is very misleading and I would consider a usability bug.
Even dissabling sorting/grouping/filtering when a Converter is used on a column is more consistent with expectations than the current behaviour.
Note, I don't believe this is a huge limitation because ultematelly wrappers can be used to format data prior to binding to grid but its just a bit unfriendly.
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Hi Guido,
I agree, the current behavior can be improved. Right now we are all leaning towards enabling sorting and documenting the performance hit. Most of the time people won't notice it, if working with a small data set, and in those occasions the grid will Just Workâ˘. Unfortunately we will have to delay that change after the Q1 release.
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I agree, the current behavior can be improved. Right now we are all leaning towards enabling sorting and documenting the performance hit. Most of the time people won't notice it, if working with a small data set, and in those occasions the grid will Just Workâ˘. Unfortunately we will have to delay that change after the Q1 release.
Best wishes,
Hristo Deshev
the Telerik team
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