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answered on 26 Jan 2009, 08:39 AM

Hello Mark Griebling,

As we already mentioned, we have RadEditor for WinForms in our plans for 2009. although we cannot give any specific timeframe for its availability at the moment. One thing is for sure - it will not be part of the upcoming Q1 2009 release.

You can really help us a lot if you give us details on the functionality you would need the most from this control. What form of content do you need to edit: Html, Rich Text or other, like OOXML? What are the most common scenarios you would need a WinForms editor for your app? Eg. will you use it to display rich-text content on the forms, or you will use it to edit external documents, HTML content or email?

We would be very glad to have your feedback.

All the best,
Mike
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answered on 27 Jan 2009, 04:48 PM

Hi Thanassis Papaioannou,

Thank you very much for the feedback. I understand your concerns about the timing so I 'll be honest with you.

We would need decent amount of time (several months) to provide you with a general word processing component for Windows Forms. Having in mind the recent shift in the world economics (which has an impact on our long-term product plans), it is doubtful that we will be able to roll out even half of the features you need this year.

Nevertheless you can subscribe to this thread for future updates, and/or keep us posted with any requests for specific features, for our to-do list.

Kind regards,
Mike
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answered on 24 Feb 2009, 08:02 AM

Hello Gerard Brandon,

I am able to view the image this time, thank you. Now I see that you need an HTML editor in your case. RIght now I am not able to provide you with a lot of feedback. I believe your approach is correct - you would need MSHTML control along with some WinForms toolbars (or why not a Ribbon bar) which should send commands to this control.
Currently commands and toolbars of our ASP.NET RadEditor control are coded entirerly in javascript and unfortunately this will not be of a great help in WinForms. We are looking forward, though, to poritng this code to C# in the near futire. We do not have any specific timeline yet.
Any more feedback you may have about this is welcome.

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Mike
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answered on 29 Jun 2009, 04:05 PM

I too would like to note I'm interested in a winforms control similar to the ASP.Net RadEditor control.
There are several available RichEdit controls on the market, so I'm not so interested in rtf type functionality (why do all the suite developers have to have the same controls..). I want a WYSIWYG HTML Editor control that has a property to return the html text. A plus would be a tab one for html view and one for wysiwyg view.
FYI I've been looking at what's available on the market right now and what I dislike in the available offerings are: ActiveX controls, IE requirement, and some controls reformat the supplied html when previewing/highlighting versus keeping original syntax intact.
If you could create a RadEditor type Winforms control that utilizes the installed browser for preview or some other engine (versus requiring IE which may not be shipping in win7 for Europe) I think you would have a popular control - as I can't find such a solution available today. One of your competitors is working on an updated RichText control with html output option but it isn't an html control so isn't likely to have support for anchor tags and such. If you can do more than a RichText control that would be great.

answered on 02 Jul 2009, 06:41 PM

Hello Chad Biggerstaff,

Thank you for your feedback - much appreciated. We will have it mind when discussing the work we need to do on a rich text control, be it HTML or RTF.

I would like to add just one note though which emerged during our previous internal discussion on the topic: if we are to provide a HTML editor, we will definitely use the IE engine (at least in the first versions), because it is naively supported by Windows Forms. Using Firefox or other installed browser is not an option, because this will require the installation of additional ActiveX control(s), which most of our [corporate] clients find to be a serious security risk.

Sincerely yours,
Vassil
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answered on 25 Aug 2009, 08:26 AM

Hi Dion,

For now we will suggest going with another 3rd party solution. We are leaning towards using the HTML format, rather than the somewhat outdated RTF. The reason is simple - Windows forms offer a very good HTML engine (Internet Explorer) which we can use right away. Even with this engine already available, we suspect this task to take anywhere between 9 to 12 months in order to offer a useful editor.

For Q3 2009 we plan to rework our current HTML support to be more compliant with the HTML standard. We also plan to provide a rather basic HTML editor (run-time and design-time), which will give you and your users the ability to format text directly, rather than writing HTML tags. This basic HTML editor will be a toolstrip with tools for the currently supported HTML functions, such as bold, italic, underline, font. If time permits we will add some paragraph functionality (<p> tags, paragraph indentation, bullets/lists), and may be hyperlinks.

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Vassil
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answered on 26 Aug 2009, 12:35 PM

Hi Dion,

Yes, the new features will be available for RadGridView. HTML support is on a framework level and all currently supported controls will get the new features automatically.

In addition, I have good news for you - after your request we decided to implement, and we did implement Strikeout and text Background Color tags. These will be available in the next internal build (next week), and ultimately in Q3 2009. Note that the internal build will *not* have the HTML editor.

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answered on 04 Sep 2009, 12:18 PM

@Jimmy - we discuss this topic when planning each release and every time we reach the same conclusions. For one, creating a rich text editor is not as easy as creating simple controls, such as buttons, or even a grid. We do have experience with such controls, RadEditor for ASP.NET Ajax being probably the best editor on the market, and we know that the implementation will be slow, even with all the expertise we already have.

The other thing we need to take into consideration is customer demands. The question is not why we do not have an editor for WinForms. Rather, the question is whether we should improve the existing controls in terms of performance and feature set, or focus [most of] our efforts on an editor, which will take 9-12 months to become feature complete. For now our plans are leaning towards the first option (due to numerous requests we have to improve the existing controls), but the discussion here is slowly turning our opinion around. This is why in a couple of months we will provide a rather basic HTML editor (run-time and design-time), which will give you and your users the ability to format text directly, rather than writing HTML tags. This should cover the needs of most of our clients.

Do not get me wrong - an editor for WinForms is still in our plans, and they will be discussed yet once again towards the end of the year. As soon as we have more information on this product, we will let you know.

@Dion - the basic HTML editor will be part of the Q3 release in November. We do not have a date for the beta yet, but I will update this thread once we have it. If all goes well, this will happen at the begging of October.

As to the Strikeout and text Background Color tags - these will be part of the internal build we plan to release today or on Monday.

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Vassil
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answered on 18 May 2010, 11:28 AM

Hi Adrian,

Thank you for getting back to us.

RadMarkupDialog is designed as dialog form and it inherits the CommonDialog class. That is why it has only the ShowDialog method. However, there is a simple workaround to show it as normal form:

RadMarkupDialog dialog = new RadMarkupDialog();

ShapedForm form = dialog.Editor.ParentForm as ShapedForm;

form.Show();

I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.

All the best,
Martin Vasilev
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answered on 23 Jun 2010, 05:17 AM

Hi Xavier Hutchinson,

Thank you for the question.

In order to use RadMarkupEditor as a control in your form, you should just create a new instance of RadMarkupEditor (but not an instance of RadMarkupDialog) and add it to the Controls collection of your form, for example:

public Form1()

{

InitializeComponent();

RadMarkupEditor editor = new RadMarkupEditor();

editor.Dock = DockStyle.Fill;

this.Controls.Add(editor);

}

I hope this helps.

Sincerely yours,
Nikolay
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answered on 01 Dec 2010, 02:45 PM

Hello Versile,

Your timing is perfect, because we have started researching what we can do about providing a rich text editor for Windows Forms, and

We are soliciting feedback on what features you would like to see from a Telerik WinForms rich text editor.

To do this, please open a new support ticket with subject RichTextEditor, and send us your responses of the following questions (feel free to extend these, if needed):

What format would you like to save the content in (HTML, XAML, XML, DOC, DOCX, etc)?
Will you need exporting functionality? If yes, what export formats will you need in your apps?
What advanced editing features will you need (for example table support, image support, etc)?
What is the main purpose of such a tool that you will need? For example, will you be editing documents, producing PDFs for archives, exporting data in other formats?
Do you plan to integrate the rich text editor with another product (such as reporting, CRM, etc)? If yes, we will appreciate it if you give us more details about your needs.
What other products have you used and what you like and dislike about them?
How would you feel if we use DirectWrite (this will require Vista SP2+ or Win7). How many of your customers are still using WinXP?
Would you prefer to use the new Ribbon interface, or the older menu/toolstrip setup?

We will provide you with 3000 Telerik points for your feedback. We would also prefer to keep this information private, so please send us your thoughts in a new support ticket.

All the best,
Vassil
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