WinForms Applikation with RadEditor in UI for WinForms General Discussions

Steven

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Dec 2006

Posted 08 Jan 2007 Link to this post

Hi,

i want to create a WinForms application with a simple WYSIWYG-Editor. Is it possible to use the RadEditor in a WinForms application?
In your Samples you use the Windows-RTF control. The UI looks very nice, but the implementation is not complet.

Thanks for Answer,

Steve

Vassil Petev

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1765 posts

Posted 09 Jan 2007 Link to this post

Hi Stefan,

r.a.d.editor is an ASP.NET web control and it cannot be used in a pure WinForms application. Could you share what your goal is? We may be able to help you if you give us more details on your requirements.

We are planning to add a rich-text editor to our WinForms suite later this year, although we do not have a specific date yet.

Best wishes,
Rob
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Steven

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Dec 2006

Posted 11 Jan 2007 Link to this post

Hi,

i want to write an application who user can write notes to documents.
I thinks HTML is the best format (better than rtf) to publish the notes later.
I have found some very simple implementations for MS-RTF control. But they are quite limited.
Your RadEditor looks more professional.
Is it possible to use an WebControl in a WinForm Application and load the RadEditor?

Best wishes
Steve

Mike

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640 posts

Posted 12 Jan 2007 Link to this post

Hello Steven,

Your suggestion makes lots of sense and we initiated a discussion about it here, in our of dev team.
We think that hosting our RadEditor web-forms control, to a greater extent of its features, is quite possible and achievable.
If you are willing to wait a bit until we implement and test this solution, we will post a KB article describing it. We are looking forward to hearing from what do you think.

All the best,
Mike
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Tim

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Posted 16 Mar 2007 Link to this post

Hi,
I will be needing scuh a controls as well. Any update on the issue?

/Tim

Mike

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Posted 21 Mar 2007 Link to this post

Hi Tim,

Currently we are not able to provide you with an implementation of this features because of some technical problems we faced while testing similar scenarios. But we did not give up the idea and we are planning for more research on that topic for the end of this month. We will keep you updated about the status of this issue. Thank you again for bringing up this discussion.

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Jon Stromer-Galley

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Aug 2007

Posted 25 Oct 2007 Link to this post

I am also interested in a Winforms based version of RadEditor.

Vassil Petev

Admin

1765 posts

Posted 29 Oct 2007 Link to this post

Thank you for your vote, Jon. A Telerik WYSIWYG editor for WinForms is logged in our feature list with highest priority. We hope to have the time to start working on it early next year.

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Rob
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Mark Griebling

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Posted 24 Jan 2008 Link to this post

I am just adding my vote for a WinForms html editor. Thanks.

Matt

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Posted 23 Jan 2009 Link to this post

We're now in 2009. Any news on this much requested control?

I'm about to start on a four-year project and if the control isn't available then we'll need to starting looking at a non-Telerik solution.

Thanks.

Mike

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Posted 26 Jan 2009 Link to this post

Hello Mark Griebling,

As we already mentioned, we have RadEditor for WinForms in our plans for 2009. although we cannot give any specific timeframe for its availability at the moment. One thing is for sure - it will not be part of the upcoming Q1 2009 release.

You can really help us a lot if you give us details on the functionality you would need the most from this control. What form of content do you need to edit: Html, Rich Text or other, like OOXML? What are the most common scenarios you would need a WinForms editor for your app? Eg. will you use it to display rich-text content on the forms, or you will use it to edit external documents, HTML content or email?

We would be very glad to have your feedback.

All the best,
Mike
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Matt

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Posted 26 Jan 2009 Link to this post

Mark,

Thanks for your response. I see people first mentioned this back in Q1 2007 so if in Q1 2009 it's still not ready I don't believe you're going to have it developed in time for our requirments. I have now sourced an alternative.

Thanks for your time.

Tom

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Member since:
Apr 2003

Posted 27 Jan 2009 Link to this post

Hi,

The form of content that we need to edit is : Rich Text, DOC, Html, PDF OOXML.

The most common scenarios we would need is :

WinForms editor for our app.
Display rich-text content on the forms
Convert from Rich-Text-DOC-Html-PDF and vv
Import-Edit-Export-Save Documents for any reason or email ...

But the timing is very very important !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom

Matt

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Jan 2009

Posted 27 Jan 2009 Link to this post

If you have time contraints then i'd recommend looking elsewhere. There some nice controls out there.

Mike

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Posted 27 Jan 2009 Link to this post

Hi Thanassis Papaioannou,

Thank you very much for the feedback. I understand your concerns about the timing so I 'll be honest with you.

We would need decent amount of time (several months) to provide you with a general word processing component for Windows Forms. Having in mind the recent shift in the world economics (which has an impact on our long-term product plans), it is doubtful that we will be able to roll out even half of the features you need this year.

Nevertheless you can subscribe to this thread for future updates, and/or keep us posted with any requests for specific features, for our to-do list.

Kind regards,
Mike
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Gerard Brandon

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Dec 2006

Posted 20 Feb 2009 Link to this post

HI Mike

I would be just as happy with a small utility as a RT Editor. Right now I have implemented MSHTML with a few icons and fonts and it works (not as perfect as I would like it to) you can see here Image of RT Editor requirement

Just that a minor rich text editor (even basic) gives the ability to implement smaller elements in a larger project.

Gerry Brandon
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Mike

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Posted 20 Feb 2009 Link to this post

Hello Gerard Brandon,

Thank you for letting us know about your requirements. Unfortunately I have problems opening the image:

Exception Type:        System.Web.HttpException
Exception Message:     The file '/esf/sf404.aspx' does not exist.

Nevertheless I think it is of significant importance whether you need an Html-editor or Rich-Text editor and how would you use the content that this editor provides. Can you please elaborate a bit more on your scenario?

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Mike
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Gerard Brandon

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Dec 2006

Posted 20 Feb 2009 Link to this post

MIke

Sorry my mistake and typo.... The link is http://www.eplixo.com/images/RadControls_editor001.jpg

If the above link does not work you should copy and paste as the link of the editor did not want to save it as I think is should be. HOwever I can attest that the address above is the correct one.

I have experimenting with Toolstrips but this is always where I prefer a dedicated expert with the layout skills that go with you guys in Telerik

If you have any ideas on how to improve it it would be nice to hear back.

Gerry

Mike

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Posted 24 Feb 2009 Link to this post

Hello Gerard Brandon,

I am able to view the image this time, thank you. Now I see that you need an HTML editor in your case. RIght now I am not able to provide you with a lot of feedback. I believe your approach is correct - you would need MSHTML control along with some WinForms toolbars (or why not a Ribbon bar) which should send commands to this control.
Currently commands and toolbars of our ASP.NET RadEditor control are coded entirerly in javascript and unfortunately this will not be of a great help in WinForms. We are looking forward, though, to poritng this code to C# in the near futire. We do not have any specific timeline yet.
Any more feedback you may have about this is welcome.

All the best,
Mike
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Gerard Brandon

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Posted 24 Feb 2009 Link to this post

Hi MIke

Thanks for getting back to me. I continue to explore alternatives including the one you suggested. Bugs so far include the resizing issue from one Screen Resolution to another. I can establish a reasonable layout the more it is tweaked. I fully accept the issues you have in relation to your development program but I do look forward to any advances you have.

Regards

Gerry Brandon
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Chad Biggerstaff

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Member since:
Apr 2005

Posted 29 Jun 2009 Link to this post

I too would like to note I'm interested in a winforms control similar to the ASP.Net RadEditor control.
There are several available RichEdit controls on the market, so I'm not so interested in rtf type functionality (why do all the suite developers have to have the same controls..). I want a WYSIWYG HTML Editor control that has a property to return the html text. A plus would be a tab one for html view and one for wysiwyg view.
FYI I've been looking at what's available on the market right now and what I dislike in the available offerings are: ActiveX controls, IE requirement, and some controls reformat the supplied html when previewing/highlighting versus keeping original syntax intact.
If you could create a RadEditor type Winforms control that utilizes the installed browser for preview or some other engine (versus requiring IE which may not be shipping in win7 for Europe) I think you would have a popular control - as I can't find such a solution available today. One of your competitors is working on an updated RichText control with html output option but it isn't an html control so isn't likely to have support for anchor tags and such. If you can do more than a RichText control that would be great.

Vassil Petev

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Posted 02 Jul 2009 Link to this post

Hello Chad Biggerstaff,

Thank you for your feedback - much appreciated. We will have it mind when discussing the work we need to do on a rich text control, be it HTML or RTF.

I would like to add just one note though which emerged during our previous internal discussion on the topic: if we are to provide a HTML editor, we will definitely use the IE engine (at least in the first versions), because it is naively supported by Windows Forms. Using Firefox or other installed browser is not an option, because this will require the installation of additional ActiveX control(s), which most of our [corporate] clients find to be a serious security risk.

Sincerely yours,
Vassil
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Walther Siksma

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May 2006

Posted 07 Jul 2009 Link to this post

I would like to add my vote for a winforms html component too.

Purpose: give the user the ability to format some general texts, these will be shown in telerik reports (using the html textbox) together with some structured data. From there the reports can be either printed or emailed where the layouts have a single source and can be altered by the enduser.
Using word templates saving the output as pdf is not an option here since word does not allow master-detail mailmerge.
ciao
Walther

Vassil Petev

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Posted 08 Jul 2009 Link to this post

Thanks for your vote, Walther Siksma, we will have it in mid.

Sincerely yours,
Vassil
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ShawnAugust

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Posted 13 Aug 2009 Link to this post

To confirm, this will support HTML and RTF?

Nick

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Posted 14 Aug 2009 Link to this post

Hello ShawnAugust,

Currently we cannot give you more information about that. Vassil meant that our future WinForms editor should be rich in terms of features, but we have not chosen a file format yet. What do you think about the files format? Which one should we support?

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Nick
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Dion

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Oct 2006

Posted 24 Aug 2009 Link to this post

I add my vote for this editor as well. Either HTML or RTF would be acceptable at this point. More can come later - but at least something to edit with that is better than plain text.

This thread was started in 2007, with a promise of somthing to come. Its now approach the end of Q3 2009 - any news would be greatly appreciated. Beta testing? Target release date? Should we wait for this control or should we go for another third party? Release date information will be very helpful in making this decision.

Thanks

Vassil Petev

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Posted 25 Aug 2009 Link to this post

Hi Dion,

For now we will suggest going with another 3rd party solution. We are leaning towards using the HTML format, rather than the somewhat outdated RTF. The reason is simple - Windows forms offer a very good HTML engine (Internet Explorer) which we can use right away. Even with this engine already available, we suspect this task to take anywhere between 9 to 12 months in order to offer a useful editor.

For Q3 2009 we plan to rework our current HTML support to be more compliant with the HTML standard. We also plan to provide a rather basic HTML editor (run-time and design-time), which will give you and your users the ability to format text directly, rather than writing HTML tags. This basic HTML editor will be a toolstrip with tools for the currently supported HTML functions, such as bold, italic, underline, font. If time permits we will add some paragraph functionality (<p> tags, paragraph indentation, bullets/lists), and may be hyperlinks.

Greetings,
Vassil
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Dion

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Oct 2006

Posted 25 Aug 2009 Link to this post

Thanks for the reply. Will the improved support be included in the RadGrid and will it also handle background color and strike through - these are the two key things I really need. Without this, then I will have to go to an alternative RadGrid as well as an alternative editor. I can hang out and wait for the editor, but I would really rather use the RadGrid.

Vassil Petev

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Posted 26 Aug 2009 Link to this post

Hi Dion,

Yes, the new features will be available for RadGridView. HTML support is on a framework level and all currently supported controls will get the new features automatically.

In addition, I have good news for you - after your request we decided to implement, and we did implement Strikeout and text Background Color tags. These will be available in the next internal build (next week), and ultimately in Q3 2009. Note that the internal build will *not* have the HTML editor.

Sincerely yours,
Vassil
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