The Telerik Quest

[Telerik Admin]

Interested in what is hiding in the upcoming Telerik release? Curious what Telerik wanted to surprise you with on April 23rd?

Play the game to reveal what we have up our sleeve! Exchange your opinions on the upcoming release and unlock the secret!

Enigma Team

[Michael Gralke Augusto]

Hi, I am not English, but I think that "wanted" is wrong, it should be want's or wants, because wanted is past.

But maybe I am wrong? What do others think?

Anyhow, looking really forward to the new release.

Bye, Mike.

"Curious with what Telerik wants to surprise you on April 23rd?"
or
"Curious what Telerik wants to surprise you with on April 23rd?"

[Relative]

Um the surprise?  it's the Ajax Manager built on the Microsoft Ajax stack isn't it? I saw the webcast 10 days ago! What else have you got to tell us?!!

L.

[Per Holmqvist]

Well, i will have a big birthdayparty this weekend cause i'm getting old, 40. ;)
Wanna surprise me on my birthday? Give me the beta :D

[Sean Brooks]

It's the new RadApplicationBuilder. 

You drag it to your page.  Upload your requirment docs to it and BAM...your app is done!

~ Sean

[Todd Anglin]

It's more than the Ajax Manager.......encourage people to add their piece to the puzzle to find out more! :)

[Chris Ruegsegger]

Sean, does the RadApplicationBuilder handle change orders too?  ;-)

techfuzz

[Sean Brooks]

Not till Q2 I'm sure. :)

[Luke Duff]

I revealed a featureless black square in the corner. Exciting!

[px]

Me too, me too! :) Hey, wait why am I excited ... ?!!

[John S.]

Hello,

I believe it is a new weathered wall skin.

John

[Chris Vickerson]

the puzzle will reveal that it is really Q2.  But if I had my wish it would be an HTML comparison "view changes" engine in the Editor :)

[Wolfshund]

Quite interesting to see were the people come from. Of course, a lot of entries are from the US, as I expected, but there also entries from Malta, Poland, Marocco, Taiwan... .

What will happen if the puzzle is not completed by April 23rd?

[Stuart Hemming]

Perhaps they won't release it until all the blocks are shown...

<siily_geman_voice>Ve haff vays of making you enjoy yourself</silly_german_voice>

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Stuart

[surfer]

With a rate of 500 puzzle pieces per day, we only have 10 days to reveal it :) Approximately at the date of the release.

[Mark Deaney]

What a novel and ingenious way to generate interest in a forthcoming product release.

Who knows what the answer is - but you got my ATTENTION !

loving the idea !

Im hoping its : R.A.D BULL - my asp programming needs some wings !

[James Yorke]

Looks like there is some kind of round shape in the middle. Not that that helps much!

[Accok5]

Do you give an award to the first one who discovers this big and exciting surprise ?

[Mark Deaney]

I hope its a Deathstar - ive have a client whos been asking for one.

[Stuart Hemming]

It won't be a deathstar; they're planning a separate release for that 'cos there are some many modules to go with it, r.a.d.StormTrooper, r.a.d.Wookie and my fav r.a.d.Vader.

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Stuart

[James Yorke]

No-one will install r.a.d. Jar Jar.

[Stuart Hemming]

You're right; far to bloody annoying! 8-)

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Stuart

[Jeremy Wadsworth]

The Quest page is prett cool. It makes me want to play a pc game. Who has time for that. I gotta get back to work.

[jorge]

Is it better examples and help?

[James Yorke]

It looks like the door of a safe to me.

[Stradas]

My guess is a WPF/E control or generater.  Or at least I hope.  That would be worth some hype.  I would love some flash like graphical control to go with the amazing logic control I get with asp.net. 

I have tried flex and it has nice graphics but is like going back to asp.  I won't go back.

Is there some irony that the page anouncing a new asp.net tool is written in flash.  Right click over the puzzle and you will see that it is running on the flash player.  :-(

[Jeremy Wadsworth]

I think James is right. It looks like a vault that will probably open when all the pieces are there or when April 23d rolls around.

[bnye]

I hope it is WCF, WPF, and WWF support.

[px]

pretty sure it's a safe but what could be in it? I hope it's beer or chocolate :)

edit: actually, i just hope it's beer

[Pierrot Bergeron]

If it is a safe, it could be an integrated security component called "r.a.d. secure" or "r.a.d. safe" .  It could be great!

Beer or chocolate could be great too!

[Markus]

I would guess the next releas will have the following in it:

New Manager for Microsoft ASP.NET AJAX. Inspired by the design-time capabilities of telerik radAjax, the new control will offer completely codeless development experience, but this time with the Microsoft's ASP.NET AJAX framework.

New set of widgets built on top of ASP.NET AJAX (color-picker, screentip/tooltip, slider/scroller, spinner, split button, etc)

New major version of radInput introducing numeric, currency and percent input controls as well as a base version of a skinable textbox input.

New major version of radChart

New major version of radDock

Just a lucky guess :-)

No realy - My guess is they have sped up the development of an image processing combinded with a gallery tool.

rad.gallery

or

they have bought goolge since the bought double click to promote the telerik tools better.

Integration of search
rad.search is a possiblity as well

Just my 2 cents on this matter.

Regards Markus

[James Yorke]

A search control sounds like a good guess.

[Mark Fitzpatrick]

I'm hoping for a pony.

[Accok5]

I was thinking about some kind of flash generation control too, but with wpf/e (silverlight!!) upcoming, this would'nt be in line with microsoft's roadmap for rich online content...

I guess we'll just have to wait...

[Coty Martin]

I'm hoping for the long awaited r.a.d.Scheduling!

[Ken Fleming]

radAjax is obvious, but I agree with the comment about WPF/E support.  That would be nice.

[Josef Rogovsky]

well it's starting to look a lot like a safe door to me.

either that or an XBox logo.

hey, maybe telerik is giving us all Xbox's! :)

[Stuart Hemming]

It looks a bit like the lock mechanism on Prof Xavier's Celebro from X-Men.

r.a.dTelepathy! Now that'd sell!

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Stuart

[CSharper]

yes the puzzle is safe door so it have to do with security

[Wim Tra Kranen]

I hope it's RADfinished drop it and ready!

[Stephen Wright]

It looks like a ship wheel to me.  r.a.d.Pirate?

Arrrrr

[Seree]

I just want the existing controls just got optimized to be faster (less generated HTML), stable and more client-side set of functions.

Just wait for the release. ^_^

Very need a new version of rad.dock!!!

[bnye]

I got it! RAD EU Membership. Drag and drop this Telerik control into your Eastern European country and instantly obtain EU membership!

Support for Turkey won't be available until at least Q3 2010.

[Johan]

For Html footprint and speed optimization, you can check out this forum thread. I've tried to compile all good suggestions I've come accross this forum - currently there are ~15 great suggestions.

http://www.telerik.com/community/forums/thread/b311D-tkcbb.aspx

[Martin]

Does telerik have enough customers to complete the puzzle? ;-)

[Stuart Hemming]

Currently we need to have > 25 new customers per hour to complete the puzzle in time!

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Stuart

[Jason McIntyre]

Its a safe to lock up all bad implementations of WEB2.0 :)

[Stuart Hemming]

I've just realised that I can't see any evidence of a label or logo. Do you think the sneeky-beekies at telerik towers have hidden it under the "Add Your Piece" panel?

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Stuart

[hacker]

May not be security....  the Safe picture may just be locking up the Telerik secret.

[Yvan LUSSIER]

I hope it's something related to WPF / Silverlight. :)
This puzzle is a nice idea.

[Jason Finch]

+1 for a pony.

[Stuart Hemming]

My confidence in the 'manlyness' you guys is being shaken by the number of chaps wishing for a pony 8-)

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Stuart

[Rebecca Rasmussen]

Here's hoping for ...

• r.a.d.search
• r.a.d.gallery
• r.a.d.horsie
• r.a.d.lotteryWinningNumberPicker

:)

[Stuart Hemming]

r.a.d.lotteryWinningNumberPicker

Finally, a suggestion we can all support!

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Stuart

[Per Holmqvist]

Then it better be international based :D

[Per Holmqvist]

it IS an safedoor, and if we stop and read the initially message.
play the GAME and UNLOCK the secret.
We will not be able to figure out anything before the door can be opened. :(

Anf for this stupid Swede, what is WPF and why does everyone wants a pony? *s*

[James Yorke]

If Telerik were able to create a control in which we were all able to win the lottery then that would be especially impressive!

[Stuart Hemming]

Anf for this stupid Swede, what is WPF
Dammedifiknow. They keep going on about something called 'silverlight' too. Neither of these things have intruded in my little world yes.

and why does everyone wants a pony? *s*
I'm frightened to ask. 8-)

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Stuart

[surfer]

Wasn't Silverlight for media only? Like movies and stuff (youtube like)? Or is there a market for UI controls.

But yeah, WPF / Silverlight would be good, as well as scheduling. And a pony.

[Mark Deaney]

Silverlight  - for those who are not familiar, like myself - until I noticed the announcment in my VS start page :-

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/asp.net/bb187358.aspx

as for the surpise.. i think its "safe" to say we may be waiting a while longer before we find out... still a lot of bits to unveil.

[timbersnow]

I would hope that you are embracing WPF/E - Silverlight?  To me, MIX 07 is going to blow everything - including the newest Adobe offerings off the map with WPF / Silverlight.

Any comments?

Gp.

[surfer]

For me (at this point of time), the WPF /e Silverlight stack appears to target Flash / Flex and focuses on media (e.g. competitor for the booming video market which currently uses flash).

At this point I am not sure how exactly this will influence the UI market, e.g. will a Silverlight grid control exist, how would it be better than DHTML grid, etc. Also, I have seen posts hinting that Silverlight will work tightly integrated with MS AJAX, so I do not believe it to be an attempt to substitute DHTML / Javascript the way we know it for the past.. eh.. 10 years.

Just my two cents. But it's a bit early before Mix 07 to tell what is really going on.

[timbersnow]

Xceed is offering a FREE data grid control for WPF/E at http://xceed.com/Grid_WPF_Intro.html - and it rocks.  WPF/E / Silverlight seems to have legs ... and Microsoft is going after the designer / developer's with full fury. 

The upcoming MIX07 should be very interesting ... So ... telerik ... will there be any WPF/E inclusion in the upcoming release?

[surfer]

I am not sure that xceed's grid targets Silverlight - it appears to me that it is targets WPF only (desktop applications). But then again, I might be wrong, never played with it.

But in any case - yeah, interesting times ahead.

[Yogi2Wise]

In fact,Telerik has the Fort Knox's code and will provide it to those who are building the puzzle...with a pony ;-)

Yogi2Wise

[Ken Fleming]

Hmm...
Silverlight
Scheduling
Improved Docking
Security
All extremely useful to me.
You can keep the pony, I prefer girls.

Really curious..?

[Josef Rogovsky]

that Xceed grid seems to be for WPF, not WPF/e.

[Stuart Hemming]

I've had a look at the link Mark Deaney posted and I see nothing in it for me. My apps aren't ever going to need that kind of functionality. Besides, there are no ponies...

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Stuart

[Stuart Hemming]

With 133 hours left we're down to a new customer rate of 19/hour

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Stuart

[LeBear]

Whatever it is, it seems to need a paint job.

My vote is for the RadApplicationBuilder

[timbersnow]

xceed announced a full WPF/E release by MIX.  WPF/E is a subset (1.4 MB subset) of the full WPF platform.

Given Microsoft's predatory capitalistic posture - and the attention they are investing in the WPF / XAML platform, all of us need to pay close attention.  And if you don't agree - it doesn't take many memory brain cells to recall the whole hype of .NET / .aspx vs. .asp or the Visual Studio IDE vs say Dreamweaver hype of the not too distant past.  Every one of us now has "come to our senses" and for the most part are developing .NET apps. 

Microsoft has also released their full Expression suite - and it's not weak.  They are clearly drawing the line in the UI sand - and is declaring a statement they will own the RIA space of soon future.  Maybe they will ... or ...

Prepare yourselves - and be proactive.

Telerik - it seems to me that WPF and XAML should be on the radar.

Gp.

[Roger]

I hope it will be indeed "r.a.d search" :)
 

[Markus]

I finally figured it out

rad.puzzle

Just drag it to your VS, choose a background and send mails to all your customers to unlock a secret. You get lots of traffic on your site. People will check back regulary to your products and if for any reason your marketing dept. has some money you can trow in a big price.

Which would be a pony :-)

Regards Markus

[M D]

Silverlight + Compiled C# = No More Javascript (well almost)

Now why are they making such a big deal out of the 1MB Download size for silverlight, not much room for dotnet, and seems silly if you can fetch an HD stream then hey you can probably download 10MB in the blink of an eye :-)

Unless when you compile a silverlight app it includes only the framework components needed, this would be a really cool solution to versioning.

[Ian Johnson]

Hi all,

My hope is for some flash based controls like I-Load (link)- this is one area that I think Telerik could make some major plays.

RadActive only have one flash product that allows image upload/resize/manipulation, but it shows what is possible by linking flash UI with an ASPX control and actually fills a gap in Telerik's suite (so maybe the Vault has an image control radImage?).

Regards
Ian

[John Waters]

Maybe is it a LEGO version of the controls?

[Gianluca Mariani]

Mumble mumble mumble...
If you see now the puzzle the image it's pretty clear...it's a simple "safe" that I suppose has in its own internal the answer...But we all know that Telerik surprising us every time...so if the "hiding surprise" is the hiding itself? I mean...perhaps the thing wich Telerik will surprise us is the tecnology itself that there is behind the puzzle system! So something like Miscrosoft Silverlight...RADFlash or something like that!!!
I suppose that because, if so, it will be not the first time that Telerik is a piooner in a particular technology (we all remember the R.a.d. Callback) so I suppose that now is the first company that produce something like the Microsoft Silverlight


Gianluca

[art.clark]

Hey! The 23rd is my birthday. Thank you telerik!

[art.clark]

how about
r.a.d. Keyboard (for tablet input flash or html based)
r.a.d. PageGraffiti (for Q.A. post-it notes)
r.a.d. ScriptWriter (server-side object that writes client-side code for you)
r.a.d. ProgrammersClock (a clock which has 30 hours in a day so we needn't be tired all the time)

If it is r.a.d. JarJar, I won't install it though.
I know!
r.a.d.VaderValidatorSummary that does all those things you wish validator could do, like templates and such.

[art.clark]

r.a.d. FlashTooltip-The Flash tooltip gave it away!
That's it.

Alright, that's 3 posts I've made, can I reveal a second square?

[Todd Anglin]

Happy birthday, Art!

Thanks for the guesses. I can confirm that the RadProgrammersClock will not be coming out this Monday, though I definitely wish we had 30 hours a day right now! :)

Stay tuned...I have a feeling we may reach the unveiling today...

[Stuart Hemming]

If a pony comes out of that bloody thing, I'm not going to be happy. Not even if it's a r.a.d.Pony! 8-)

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Stuart

[Relative]

It's not a safe you know.

It's the San Quentin gas chamber. All that is going to happen is that we open the door to find that Telerik has simply gassed all the developers from Infragistics and Component One.

L.

[Stuart Hemming]

Na! No need, the guys at telerik towers beat 'em to a pulp fair and square with r.a.d.Controls. No contest there.

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Stuart

[Per Holmqvist]

dare i drop a vote for
R.A.D Flashmaker?
Export, sprite166 as "__Packages.com.telerik.events.EventDispatcher"
Export, sprite167 as "__Packages.com.telerik.transition.Transition"

just a guess ;)

[Mark Deaney]

Just got below the 500  mark - tis getting close !

I hope its worth it !

[Per Holmqvist]

Below 300 ;)

[Software]

As long as the pony is Ajax enabled I don't care!  An Ajax-enabled rad-Pony with Silverstream support would be really cool though...

[Per Holmqvist]

less than 50.. Wonder how many that is online right now awaiting? :D

[Mark Deaney]

almost there - yippee.

get the whip out ... the pony is coming !

[Per Holmqvist]

what a bug.

0 pieces left. And nothing happens :(
april fool a little bit late? :D

[Telerik Admin]

The Q1 2007 secret has been revealed!

[Mark Deaney]

i know - highly disappointed !

10,000 points for my mental trauma ?

[timbersnow]

What a FREAKIN' buzz kill! It's almost cruel!

Good move on Silverlight ... we'll see what that entails.

Gp.

[Mark Deaney]

scheduling - just getting fed up with a competitors product - interested to see how the telerik one works and the new silverlight and prometheus controls means ive to keep a few days free for evalutating and learning even more !

its true what you say... delivered more than I expected.

[Per Holmqvist]

Mark, at least 1 000 points per delayed second :p

Well, both silverlight and scheduler. good work. Just on emore whish, where do we download it right now? :D

[Todd Anglin]

If you're having trouble viewing the reveal, try clearing your cache or reloading the page with Cntrl+F5. Then join the reveal discussion in this new forum thread.

For those of you that are disappointed, I'm sorry to hear it. Did you really expect a pony? ;-)

Thanks~
Todd

[Telerik Admin]

Here is the RadPony version, for all who requested it !!!

Enigma team

[Per Holmqvist]

Who have been dissapointed? We were just traumatic for not rewealving the secret, even though ctrl+F5 reloading :(

I'm happy, I really looked for the scheduler. :D

[Mark Fitzpatrick]

Oh well, no R.A.D.Pony but the scheduler looks like a great addition. So does the SilverLight stuff. I'm not dissapointed that's for sure.

I really liked someones suggestion about a r.a.d. Flash component. That would be fantastic as it's a pretty bland and painful component segment. The Component1 Flash component is very limited on what it can do. The Aspose.Flash is great, but has very little documentation and samples and can be difficult to program. Other solutions out there just don't cut it as they're just straight objects on top of the swf file format specs or they're non-managed code with a managed wrapper. Keep this in mind for the Q2 release please, it would be a fantastic addition.

Mark

P.S. It's ok about the pony, especially since it requires r.a.d. scooper and r.a.d. barn.

[edgebyte]

In particular I'm loving the possibilities behind RadScheduler - especially as I'm about to start writing an application that will need this functionality! Telerik just made my life 100x easier in that regard.

RadInput sounds cool too - especially now you can just have a drop-in replacement for ASP:TextBox that takes all the telerik skins - no more trying to hack your CSS to make it look like telerik controls.

Here's a quick write up i've just put together with my views, comments welcome.

[hacker]

Does the new RadBull give you wings?  Or maybe the one that allows you to work longer without taking a break (kind of a beta to RadProgrammers Clock)

Is the RadFairy the one that takes your scoping document and creates the application?


Can't wait to see the live examples!

Shawn