Intellesense (Again)

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  1. Mike
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    Sep 2008

    Posted 20 Dec 2011 Link to this post


    I am pulling what litle hair I have trying to use one of your competitors products. Performance and stabilty is a major issue with it

    I would love to pull the plug and  use JC full time , but without the enhanced Intellesense I am used to I simply cannot

    I bit the bullet and keep trying

    Is there a quarter release planned fro JC's intellesence you mentioned a while back, at this stage I need that little light in the tunnel

    I have been using JC a lot of late and it simply getting better each release , well done.

    I am using it conjunction with Whole Tomato's Visual Assist X , just to add the Intellesence I occasionally find a clash but nothing show stopping

    Please can we have some hint as to intellesence it will guide my decsions as to wether I simply give up with R#.


    PS Give Me intellesence and I'll be back with a feature request for an Outliner window a la VA Outliner , that is REALLY Useful.
  2. Ivo Bratoev
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    Posted 28 Dec 2011 Link to this post

    Hello Mike,

    Thanks for your feature request. We have considered intellisense before and we are doing some investments in this direction but for now we don't have a definite plan when we will release it.
    I am interested in what exactly do you miss or don't like in the Visual Studio implementation. What exactly version of Visual Studio do you use?

    Happy holidays!

    Kind regards,
    Ivo Bratoev
    the Telerik team

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  3. Mike
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    Posted 31 Dec 2011 Link to this post

    Hi Ivo

    I use a combination of 2005 , 2008 and 2010 , Team Suite and Ultimate. at the moment mostly 2008 Team Suite (we are slow to upgrade our projects !!) . Also we use a lot of database Projects , quite big ones at that.

    I have used Visual Assist X for 7 years on and off now , and Resharper for the last 3 years , it is very hard to itemise the intellesence advantage of these 2 but once you work with them , reverting to std VS is several steps back and very noticeable in how you work and type code.

    For example the use of Camel Humps , ie shortcutting with the Pascal / Camel case capital letters ( eg CustomerDataSet = cds) has only come to VS 2010 this time around but has been in VAX as long as I can remember.  Its like programming in shorthand  <cds.ds > = CostomerDataSet.DataSource etc .... its very quick and very accurate.

    Also the preference on selecting the Suggestion  List preference is given to recently used or most used methods , functions , variables etc. rather than staright alphabetic. This makes a serious difference to how you program , because 9 times out of 10 , the variable you want is defaulted to the top choice , you simply tab to accept.

    The other biggie is their Templates / AutoText features all show up as options in the suggestion list, yes VS snippets do too , but they are light years behind Resharper's offering. Again a major speed boost , you get templates for "nothing" as you type.

    At the moment at work I use predominanlty 2008 and would serioulsy miss the features, even though 2010 has caught up a bit.

    The list goes on , dare i be "cheeky" and suggest you install a demo of either (pref R#) and work with it , you will be "sore amazed". You may see why I miss it when I don't have it.

    My problem at the moment is that R# has on the face of it a serious memory issue , I get to a couple of hours into a session with a big project and get virtual memory errors. This has not gone away with their 6.1 release  Quite simply I need an alternative.

    JC is showing nice progress to me , but the lack of that intellsense quite simply is a show stopper. I have been using a mix of JC and VAX , which play quite well together , but its hardly the answer as I have 3 parsers at it all trying to do the same thing .

    Commercially , there are 4 big players , Coderush being the fourth but it is a very different product , in a straight fight JC will lose every time because of the intellesense shortfall (IMHO) , match the others for intellesence and the rest of you attributes will win through.

    Your best bits in my opinion

    Small Memory foot print
    Fast (VERY IMP)
    Good Templates
    Good Refactorings

    Having used all 3 competitors , i think you are on a winner BUT ....

    I hope this helps

    Happy New Year


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