Clinton Gallagher
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Clinton Gallagher
asked on 24 Oct 2008, 12:38 AM
...and once it is finally found, documentation does not make sense. How for example is this software installed on a local Vista IIS7 development machine?
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Gabe Sumner
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answered on 24 Oct 2008, 04:34 PM
Hi Clinton,
You will probably need to run the Sitefinity installation executable as "Administrator". Just right-click on the downloaded EXE and click "Run as administrator".
Once installed, there are a couple other changes you will need to make to IIS on Vista. You can find information in the Sitefinity documentation:
http://www.sitefinity.com/documents/InstallationGuide_3_5.pdf
See chapter 6 in this manual. If you still have problems, feel free to post in the Sitefinity forums:
http://www.sitefinity.com/support/forums/forums.aspx
Gabe Sumner
You will probably need to run the Sitefinity installation executable as "Administrator". Just right-click on the downloaded EXE and click "Run as administrator".
Once installed, there are a couple other changes you will need to make to IIS on Vista. You can find information in the Sitefinity documentation:
http://www.sitefinity.com/documents/InstallationGuide_3_5.pdf
See chapter 6 in this manual. If you still have problems, feel free to post in the Sitefinity forums:
http://www.sitefinity.com/support/forums/forums.aspx
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Clinton Gallagher
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answered on 24 Oct 2008, 05:37 PM
Hello Gabe and thanks for responding.
I've scoured the documentation and one point that stands out is this:
The Sitefinity installer tries to create its virtual folders in the default IIS site, "Default Web Site". If that site is stopped or does not exist, the installation will fail in creating the virtual directories.
Since the biggest mistake that has been made is burying the doc in the executable I have to conclude the failed install is due to the fact that I already use the Default Website for my primary application development and don't want anything messing with my preferred configuration. I'm just glad to see the install did not leave any litter behind.
Currently, installing and configuring Sitefinity on the dev machine is convoluted and the use of the Default Website is unneccessary.
I mean the best thing about Vista is IIS 7 and support for multiple websites using the hosts file.
The docs also imply a person would have to ask the hosting provider to configure their application server to support SiteFinity but that's another matter for another discussion as I'm sure you'd agree the success of SiteFinity is going to begin and end on the developer's machine.
I'm supportive of Telerik and while I don't remember his name I talked briefly with the founder way back in the day several years ago --but-- I can't cope with this poorly thought out install and configuration.
Personally speaking, the doc should be broken out of the executable and the entire installation and configuration procedure should walk the developer through the use of the hosts file.
I've scoured the documentation and one point that stands out is this:
The Sitefinity installer tries to create its virtual folders in the default IIS site, "Default Web Site". If that site is stopped or does not exist, the installation will fail in creating the virtual directories.
Since the biggest mistake that has been made is burying the doc in the executable I have to conclude the failed install is due to the fact that I already use the Default Website for my primary application development and don't want anything messing with my preferred configuration. I'm just glad to see the install did not leave any litter behind.
Currently, installing and configuring Sitefinity on the dev machine is convoluted and the use of the Default Website is unneccessary.
I mean the best thing about Vista is IIS 7 and support for multiple websites using the hosts file.
The docs also imply a person would have to ask the hosting provider to configure their application server to support SiteFinity but that's another matter for another discussion as I'm sure you'd agree the success of SiteFinity is going to begin and end on the developer's machine.
I'm supportive of Telerik and while I don't remember his name I talked briefly with the founder way back in the day several years ago --but-- I can't cope with this poorly thought out install and configuration.
Personally speaking, the doc should be broken out of the executable and the entire installation and configuration procedure should walk the developer through the use of the hosts file.
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Hello Clinton Gallagher,
I think there is some misunderstanding.
We have designed the installer for developer machines only. It is installing the project manager, which is creating the projects (web applications). These projects are migrated to the production (live) server once the develop process is over. The migration is just a ftp upload and backup/restore process of the database. This is all.
We have one more way to create projects - with the EmptyProject. You can download EmptyProject.zip file from your Client.Net account, extract it somewhere, create a virtual directory and point it to the extracted files.
We would like to thank you about sharing your ideas about the installer anyway. We think to change it - it could be a windows application which handles the OS platform configuration and the users restriction in a better way.
Greetings,
Georgi
the Telerik team
Check out Telerik Trainer, the state of the art learning tool for Telerik products.
I think there is some misunderstanding.
We have designed the installer for developer machines only. It is installing the project manager, which is creating the projects (web applications). These projects are migrated to the production (live) server once the develop process is over. The migration is just a ftp upload and backup/restore process of the database. This is all.
We have one more way to create projects - with the EmptyProject. You can download EmptyProject.zip file from your Client.Net account, extract it somewhere, create a virtual directory and point it to the extracted files.
We would like to thank you about sharing your ideas about the installer anyway. We think to change it - it could be a windows application which handles the OS platform configuration and the users restriction in a better way.
Greetings,
Georgi
the Telerik team
Check out Telerik Trainer, the state of the art learning tool for Telerik products.