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I have to say it's very impressive the rich editor that you've built. But at the same time, now that I've tried to layout a page with it, I have to almost declare it unusable. Users will just complain about so many issues.
1) Tried changing the background color of a cell to black (worked) and then the forecolor to white (did not work, couldn't see text)
2) Tried changing margins and getting table to take up the whole width, did NOT work
3) No way to insert background images ?
4) Text does not flow around tables or images
5) I'm using the html provider. Saved my file, reopened it, the table columns are all messed up. I can't ever get the file to reopen exactly as I saved it.
6) I'm running in debugger and there are constant silverlight errors whenever I right click
7) Some type of timing issue. I have a grid and when the user clicks a row, I open a modal radwindow with the editor. Every other time I open a document, the editor throws up a silverlight error
8) I inserted a table at the top of the page, yet there's an extra line above the table that I can't seem to remove.
I give up. Need to switch tactics. Maybe just have the users upload actual word documents.
1) Tried changing the background color of a cell to black (worked) and then the forecolor to white (did not work, couldn't see text)
2) Tried changing margins and getting table to take up the whole width, did NOT work
3) No way to insert background images ?
4) Text does not flow around tables or images
5) I'm using the html provider. Saved my file, reopened it, the table columns are all messed up. I can't ever get the file to reopen exactly as I saved it.
6) I'm running in debugger and there are constant silverlight errors whenever I right click
7) Some type of timing issue. I have a grid and when the user clicks a row, I open a modal radwindow with the editor. Every other time I open a document, the editor throws up a silverlight error
8) I inserted a table at the top of the page, yet there's an extra line above the table that I can't seem to remove.
I give up. Need to switch tactics. Maybe just have the users upload actual word documents.
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answered on 10 Feb 2011, 10:19 AM
I just tried some of your points in the online demo, default document:
1. Works. Change to black background in the cell properties and text color to white
2. Works. Adjust the margins with the ruler and the table fits the whole width.
5. Does not work. I saved the demo document after some changes and the editor refused to load the document back!
8. Does not work. In the demo document there is always a blank line if you remove the text above the table!
Edit:
6. Even without running the debugger, the demo page shows a lot of SL errors (warning icon in the lower left corner in IE)
1. Works. Change to black background in the cell properties and text color to white
2. Works. Adjust the margins with the ruler and the table fits the whole width.
5. Does not work. I saved the demo document after some changes and the editor refused to load the document back!
8. Does not work. In the demo document there is always a blank line if you remove the text above the table!
Edit:
6. Even without running the debugger, the demo page shows a lot of SL errors (warning icon in the lower left corner in IE)
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Hello guys,
Thanks Jorn, you are right about these points.
Pat, we are sorry to hear you experienced these issues and we are willing to help with whatever we can.
About 3,4 - these features are still not available in RadRichTextBox, but we plan to add them very soon.
5 - This is an issue we are currently working on and it will be resolved in the next release. The problem is related to this specific table layout.
6 - This can happen as RadRichTextBox uses MEF to load some of its components, like the ContextMenu. Please make sure your application references all required Telerik assemblies with the same version number. We actualy found a workaround for this problems with MEF and you won't get any errors even if some assembly references are not found at runtime - which is most probably why you receive these errors. Again this issue will be resolved in the subsequent release or LIB (Latest Internal Build).
7 - We need more information about this issue in order to help you.
8 - This behavior is currently by design because of a limitation in our Table support. We will improve this in the next major version. We hope this is not a great limitation in your scenario. If otherwise, please give us more details.
Please let us know how can we help further.
Best wishes,
Mike
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Thanks Jorn, you are right about these points.
Pat, we are sorry to hear you experienced these issues and we are willing to help with whatever we can.
About 3,4 - these features are still not available in RadRichTextBox, but we plan to add them very soon.
5 - This is an issue we are currently working on and it will be resolved in the next release. The problem is related to this specific table layout.
6 - This can happen as RadRichTextBox uses MEF to load some of its components, like the ContextMenu. Please make sure your application references all required Telerik assemblies with the same version number. We actualy found a workaround for this problems with MEF and you won't get any errors even if some assembly references are not found at runtime - which is most probably why you receive these errors. Again this issue will be resolved in the subsequent release or LIB (Latest Internal Build).
7 - We need more information about this issue in order to help you.
8 - This behavior is currently by design because of a limitation in our Table support. We will improve this in the next major version. We hope this is not a great limitation in your scenario. If otherwise, please give us more details.
Please let us know how can we help further.
Best wishes,
Mike
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answered on 23 Feb 2011, 03:23 PM
I appreciate the help but at this point we've cancelled this feature. We will simply have users upload word or publisher files, although that has it's own issues.
Do you know of any software that will let me store a word or publisher in a text like format (or can quickly convert binary formats of those files to text) so that I can merge our data with it at runtime AND then QUICKLY convert to pdf or html?
Do you know of any software that will let me store a word or publisher in a text like format (or can quickly convert binary formats of those files to text) so that I can merge our data with it at runtime AND then QUICKLY convert to pdf or html?
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Hi pat,
If I have understood you correctly, the functionality you have just described resembles mail merge. The idea behind it is to have template document with placeholders (fields) and a structured data source with records. The fields are replaced with the data taken from the records.
If this really is what you need, we have plans to add native support for such functionality for Q1 or shortly after it. If you need something earlier, please open a support ticket such that we could try to assist you personally.
Regards,
Vesko
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If I have understood you correctly, the functionality you have just described resembles mail merge. The idea behind it is to have template document with placeholders (fields) and a structured data source with records. The fields are replaced with the data taken from the records.
If this really is what you need, we have plans to add native support for such functionality for Q1 or shortly after it. If you need something earlier, please open a support ticket such that we could try to assist you personally.
Regards,
Vesko
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answered on 01 Mar 2011, 06:51 PM
Yes, basically, but with a slight twist. Normally in mail merge, the tags are just embedded directly into the text and one case see the tag, for example <<subject>> or <<name>>.
For the purpose of laying out catalogs this doesn't work since the tags can be too long and they throw off the text. I was hoping to implement some type of feature where they could place a tag that would be readonly, but then they could click or right click it to edit the actual tag. That way, the readonly part would be representative of what would really go there. In some case, part of the visible readonly "might" be a part of the underlying data tag, in other cases, it might just be a place holder like "$00.00".
The other major issue is just that the editor doesn't provide enough basic layout features, like wrapping text, more control of tables, borders, rounded edges, flow, etc.
I tried to do what I wanted with word and even word would not work, I couldn't get the layout right. I was finally able to layout a client's demo page using publisher. However, in exporting that to html that I could then parse and insert the real data, while it worked for the purposes of rendering html in a browser, it did NOT work with the pdf convertor tool I was using (winnovative) as that tool couldn't process the vml part of the webpage (publisher and word exported to html using vml, even though I asked them not too).
For the purpose of laying out catalogs this doesn't work since the tags can be too long and they throw off the text. I was hoping to implement some type of feature where they could place a tag that would be readonly, but then they could click or right click it to edit the actual tag. That way, the readonly part would be representative of what would really go there. In some case, part of the visible readonly "might" be a part of the underlying data tag, in other cases, it might just be a place holder like "$00.00".
The other major issue is just that the editor doesn't provide enough basic layout features, like wrapping text, more control of tables, borders, rounded edges, flow, etc.
I tried to do what I wanted with word and even word would not work, I couldn't get the layout right. I was finally able to layout a client's demo page using publisher. However, in exporting that to html that I could then parse and insert the real data, while it worked for the purposes of rendering html in a browser, it did NOT work with the pdf convertor tool I was using (winnovative) as that tool couldn't process the vml part of the webpage (publisher and word exported to html using vml, even though I asked them not too).
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Hello pat,
We are constantly working to improve our editor's capabilities. We'll be bringing mail merge, layout capability improvements and feature additions in all areas in the upcoming releases. We have taken a note on all your suggestions and we hope that in the next few releases we'll be able to meet your requirements.
Feel free to contact us if anything else arises.
All the best,
Ivailo
the Telerik team
We are constantly working to improve our editor's capabilities. We'll be bringing mail merge, layout capability improvements and feature additions in all areas in the upcoming releases. We have taken a note on all your suggestions and we hope that in the next few releases we'll be able to meet your requirements.
Feel free to contact us if anything else arises.
All the best,
Ivailo
the Telerik team
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