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Editor (Html) for Silverlight?

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Chris asked on 18 Sep 2008, 03:25 AM
Hi,

My assumption is that there will be an Html editor for Silverlight as a Telerik control at some point.  Is there a time frame on this or is it on the roadmap?  It would be nice to know what the time frame is like and whether i need to keep some admin functionality in a normal asp .net page or if I can expect to move it over to SL in the near future.  (or i guess i can check out the other available html editors in SL)

Thanks,

Chris

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Valeri Hristov
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answered on 18 Sep 2008, 02:30 PM
Hello Chris,

Currently our plan is to provide simple editor control for Silverlight soon after Q3, due in the beginning of November. A better featured version is expected in Q1 2009, which has no specific date yet, but I assume that it most probably will be somewhere around the end of February.

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Jaime
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answered on 03 Dec 2008, 04:40 PM
Is it posible to get a preview of this control? We are planning to launch our product, but we are missing this component. It would be nice to have it so when it ships, we can be confident that we can make it work.

This component is crucial for mail handling.

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Valeri Hristov
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answered on 04 Dec 2008, 10:01 AM
Hello Jaime,

We are unable to send a preview of RadEditor for Silverlight right now, since the control is in its very early stages of development, e.g. it is still a prototype. Most probably we will provide the most eager clients with a pre-CTP version in the first several weeks of 2009.

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Roberto
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answered on 08 Jan 2009, 08:36 AM
I'm looking for html editor for silverlight too. May you advise me when the pre-CTP version is available? Thank you very much...
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Valentin.Stoychev
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answered on 08 Jan 2009, 10:39 AM
Hi Roberto, All,

We are in a very early stage of developing the editor. Can you please share with us the features tha tyou expect from the first version of the editor. This will help us a lot in prioritizing the features that we are working on.

Thanks!

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Will
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answered on 08 Jan 2009, 03:16 PM
I'm currently evaluating various Sliverlight controls for my company. The lack of an Editor and the seeming lack of progress on this issue since September are a big disincentive for me to recommend Telerik. The previous post indicates that you still haven't finalized the features of your editor never mind be close to finishing it. Therefore I wouldn't imagine that you'll have anything ready until Q2 2009, yes? The functionality you need to provide is much the same as the ComponentOne offering, but with the same high quality as your other components (which I have to say are very impressive). I'm sure you would gain a lot of support for opening a beta program which would allow customers to see what's coming in the pipeline.

Will
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Jaime
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answered on 08 Jan 2009, 06:43 PM
Hi, I must agree with Will, Telerik controls have very good quality, but we are lacking things that should have come with the RTW. And Blend Support every day seems to worsen. (December release VS. RTW).

We are developing a full business Application, that we need to market. We are having to replace Telerik controls with others, due to the multiple Blend issues.


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Roberto
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answered on 08 Jan 2009, 08:41 PM
I will write the features very gladly, but during this weekend. Before I prefer to install your RadEditor, so it is easier to make examples... Best regards
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Will
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answered on 09 Jan 2009, 07:28 AM
I hope you weren't upset by my post. It was honest feedback. The fact is Telerik have created some stunning controls, but the lack of an editor is a big gap in your product line. You don't need to provide anything more than basic functionality in the first release (i.e. the sort of editor I'm using to create this post). If necessary create a simple editor and then work on a more feature laden control for release in Q3/Q4 2009. However, your customers need to know your plans.

Keep up the excellent work!

Will
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Roberto
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answered on 09 Jan 2009, 09:50 AM
The RadEditor is very beautiful. I am particularly interested to the management of the tables, and your management is very good. If SilverLight Editor had the same features (also someone less ;-) ), it would be excellent. Little note: if I select an element in design view, it would be beautiful if the relative html code was selected in the html view. Finally it would be beautiful if the html code had the tag colors.
I think as Will that You don't need to provide anything more than basic functionality in the first release and then work on a more feature laden control for release in Q3/Q4 2009.

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Valentin.Stoychev
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answered on 14 Jan 2009, 10:47 AM
Hello All,

The good news is that we are working actively on the Editor control and we will do our best to release a CTP version with our Q1 release.

With this first CTP the most common commands will be enabled. Unfortunately the table wizard will not be done, but it is scheduled for the next update.

Thank you all for the feedback and keep it coming.

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Ben Hayat
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answered on 14 Jan 2009, 06:23 PM
Valentin, is the current version that you're working on, based on the AJAX component used in the ASP.Net suite or is it a native SL control?

Thanks!
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Serrin
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answered on 14 Jan 2009, 08:44 PM
If it is native Silverlight then the developers here are some kind of wizards, because for all my efforts I've only been able to make a rich text block that handles bold, italic, and underline well- nothing else really translates well for all my efforts.  I'd love to see it as a slick SL wrapper that maintains the functionality of the regular RadEditor, as most of my current pet projects involve a blend of Silverlight, javascript, and good old ASP.Net to achieve good results.
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Stewart Ellis
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answered on 08 Apr 2009, 06:02 PM
As a user of ASP.NET version RAD Editor for a number of years now and the old RichTextBox before it, I can say that Telerik has delivered an excellent product greatly increased the capabilities of what can be done in the browser. That said, in my opinion the biggest shortcomings of in-browser html editing is not editor, but rather, the underlying engine baked into the various browsers. IE was first out of the gate with this and FireFox et all joined in later. For simple editing they are fine, but they don't deliver a true "desktop like" experience, when it comes to more elaborate html editing. I find that there are always little gotchas that you can live with if you know html and don't mind going into source view, but can be problematic for non-technical users.

My clients want to do more that just apply css to text. The ASP.NET RAD Editor has features that have become key to our CMS. Things like snippents and custom links, as we as the image and document dialogs have allowed our customers to easily handle more complex tasks without having to html, css and FTP.

I see that Telerik is now at the CTP stage for the Silverlight Editor - well done. Now let keep going! Here is what I would like to see.

  • First of all, now that we have removed the various browsers from the picture, we can aspire to a more Dreamweaver like feel overall. It's still the benchmark in my opinion.
  • Tag Inspector - Vital! When we teach end users how to edit content, we always encourage them to use the tag inspector as opposed to just selection text. It eliminates a great deal of redundant <span> tags. They may not care about creating clean, semantically correct html, but we encourage them to use the tag inspector as a simple way to make a selection. It's easier than dragging the cursor.
  • Image and Document managers with upload capabilities - I realize there are other file managers, but those are the 2 biggies for me
  • Apply CSS styles - goes without saying
  • Paragraph Styles - we encourage our clients to use H1 and H2 from an SEO point of view so this item important
  • Spellchecking
  • Snippents
  • Control over the tool bar
  • Custom Links

I would encourage other Telerik users to keep this discussion going. While I'll continue to happily use the browser version of the editor, I see the Silverlight editor as the future of content management systems I want to build. The more we help Telerik move this product forward, the faster we will have what we need.

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Valentin.Stoychev
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answered on 09 Apr 2009, 06:44 AM
Hi Stewart Ellis,

Thanks for the suggestions - I really like the see a discussion about the RadEditor for Silverlight.

Greetings,
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Jaime Bula
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answered on 09 Apr 2009, 02:55 PM
I would like that the RadEditor could accept content twice without thorwing an exception.

I'd preferer stability more than features.

Adding to what Steward said, proper copy paste from microsoft office (auto remove MSO tags).

Export to microsoft Word (And other formats).



Best Regards,

Jaime
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Valentin.Stoychev
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answered on 09 Apr 2009, 03:01 PM

Hello Jaime,

Do you have any specific error in mind that we can fix?

About the features vs stability - yes - stability is has always been our priority. I think you will see this happen with all our controls during the next releases while the suite and the framework matures.

Please let us know if you have any issues that we can take care of.

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Jaime Bula
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answered on 09 Apr 2009, 03:23 PM
Hi, thanks for the quick response,

The issue we are having is that when you set the HTML content form code behind it works, but when yo try to set it again for a second time on the same control, and exception is thrown.

Best Regards,

Jaime Bula
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Valentin.Stoychev
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answered on 10 Apr 2009, 08:11 AM
Jaime, we are not able to reproduce the problem with the latest official version and with the SP1 version (that will be released today).

Here is basically what we are doing:
c#:
public partial class Page : UserControl  
    {  
        public Page()  
        {  
            InitializeComponent();  
            RadEditor1.Html = "<p>Testing0</p>";  
        }  
 
        private void Button_Click(object sender, RoutedEventArgs e)  
        {  
            RadEditor1.Html = "<p>Testing1</p>";  
        }  
    } 
XAML:
<telerikEditor:RadEditor x:Name="RadEditor1" Height="250"></telerikEditor:RadEditor>  
        <Button Click="Button_Click"></Button> 


Could send us a simple project where this ussues is observed.

Thanks!


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Dennis
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answered on 26 May 2009, 09:13 AM
We are currently using the infragistics WebHtmlEditor (non-silverlight) and are looking for a replacement.
These are the requirements we would have for a replacement:

* Can add and remove buttons from the menu
* Copy/Paste from office without the MSO
* Can see HTML view
* Can insert custom controls in the middle of the text and can control their appearance in HTML view also
* Can upload images directly (Not really necessary if all of the above is in order)
* Can have multiple text boxes, but only one editor menu (Not necessary, but a nice bonus)

Thanks

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Valentin.Stoychev
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answered on 27 May 2009, 05:51 AM
Hello Dennis,

Thank you for your feedback. I update your telerik points.

All of the above features are supported by our Ajax html editor. We will have them in mind when implementing the Silverlight editor.

Best wishes,
Valentin.Stoychev
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