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Steven asked on 08 Jan 2007, 05:23 PM
Hi,

i want to create a WinForms application with a simple WYSIWYG-Editor. Is it possible to use the RadEditor in a WinForms application?
In your Samples you use the Windows-RTF control. The UI looks very nice, but the implementation is not complet.

Thanks for Answer,

Steve

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Vassil Petev
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answered on 09 Jan 2007, 09:08 AM
Hi Stefan,

r.a.d.editor is an ASP.NET web control and it cannot be used in a pure WinForms application. Could you share what your goal is? We may be able to help you if you give us more details on your requirements.

We are planning to add a rich-text editor to our WinForms suite later this year, although we do not have a specific date yet.


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Rob
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Steven
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answered on 12 Jan 2007, 01:12 AM
Hi,

i want to write an application who user can write notes to documents.
I thinks HTML is the best format (better than rtf) to publish the notes later.
I have found some very simple implementations for MS-RTF control. But they are quite limited.
Your RadEditor looks more professional.
Is it possible to use an WebControl in a WinForm Application and load the RadEditor?

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Steve
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Mike
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answered on 12 Jan 2007, 08:46 AM
Hello Steven,

Your suggestion makes lots of sense and we initiated a discussion about it here, in our of dev team.
We think that hosting our RadEditor web-forms control, to a greater extent of its features, is quite possible and achievable.
If you are willing to wait a bit until we implement and test this solution, we will post a KB article describing it. We are looking forward to hearing from what do you think.
 

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Tim
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answered on 16 Mar 2007, 01:32 PM
Hi,
I will be needing scuh a controls as well. Any update on the issue?

/Tim
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Mike
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answered on 21 Mar 2007, 08:03 AM
Hi Tim,

Currently we are not able to provide you with an implementation of this features because of some technical problems we faced while testing similar scenarios. But we did not give up the idea and we are planning for more research on that topic for the end of this month. We will keep you updated about the status of this issue. Thank you again for bringing up this discussion.

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Mike
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Jon Stromer-Galley
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answered on 25 Oct 2007, 06:04 PM
I am also interested in a Winforms based version of RadEditor.
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Vassil Petev
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answered on 29 Oct 2007, 02:08 PM
Thank you for your vote, Jon. A Telerik WYSIWYG editor for WinForms is logged in our feature list with highest priority. We hope to have the time to start working on it early next year.


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answered on 25 Jan 2008, 12:06 AM
I am just adding my vote for a WinForms html editor.  Thanks.
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Matt
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answered on 23 Jan 2009, 10:15 AM
We're now in 2009.  Any news on this much requested control?

I'm about to start on a four-year project and if the control isn't available then we'll need to starting looking at a non-Telerik solution.

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Mike
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answered on 26 Jan 2009, 08:39 AM
Hello Mark Griebling,

As we already mentioned, we have RadEditor for WinForms in our plans for 2009. although we cannot give any specific timeframe for its availability at the moment. One thing is for sure - it will not be part of the upcoming Q1 2009 release.

You can really help us a lot if you give us details on the functionality you would need the most from this control. What form of content do you need to edit: Html, Rich Text or other, like OOXML?  What are the most common scenarios you would need a WinForms editor for your app? Eg. will you use it to display rich-text content on the forms, or you will use it to edit external documents, HTML content or email?

We would be very glad to have your feedback.

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Mike
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answered on 26 Jan 2009, 09:03 AM
Mark,

Thanks for your response.  I see people first mentioned this back in Q1 2007 so if in Q1 2009 it's still not ready I don't believe you're going to have it developed in time for our requirments.  I have now sourced an alternative.

Thanks for your time.
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answered on 27 Jan 2009, 02:46 PM
Hi,

The form of content that we need to edit is : Rich Text, DOC, Html, PDF OOXML.

The most common scenarios we would need is :
  • WinForms editor for our app.
  • Display rich-text content on the forms
  • Convert from Rich-Text-DOC-Html-PDF and vv
  • Import-Edit-Export-Save Documents for any reason or email ...

But the timing is very very important !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom

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Matt
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answered on 27 Jan 2009, 04:40 PM
If you have time contraints then i'd recommend looking elsewhere.  There some nice controls out there.
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answered on 27 Jan 2009, 04:48 PM
Hi Thanassis Papaioannou,

Thank you very much for the feedback. I understand your concerns about the timing so I 'll be honest with you.

We would need decent amount of time (several months) to provide you with a general word processing component for Windows Forms. Having in mind the recent shift in the world economics (which has an impact on our long-term product plans), it is doubtful that we will be able to roll out even half of the features you need this year.

Nevertheless you can subscribe to this thread for future updates, and/or keep us posted with any requests for specific features, for our to-do list.

 
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Mike
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Gerard Brandon
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answered on 20 Feb 2009, 09:41 AM
HI Mike

I would be just as happy with a small utility as a RT Editor. Right now I have implemented MSHTML with a few icons and fonts and it works (not as perfect as I would like it to) you can see here Image of RT Editor requirement

Just that a minor rich text editor (even basic) gives the ability to implement smaller elements in a larger project.

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Mike
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answered on 20 Feb 2009, 12:52 PM
Hello Gerard Brandon,

Thank you for letting us know about your requirements. Unfortunately I have problems opening the image:
Exception Type:        System.Web.HttpException
Exception Message: The file '/esf/sf404.aspx' does not exist.
Nevertheless I think it is of significant importance whether you need an Html-editor or Rich-Text editor and how would you use the content that this editor provides. Can you please elaborate a bit more on your scenario?

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Gerard Brandon
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answered on 20 Feb 2009, 01:54 PM
MIke

Sorry my mistake and typo.... The link is http://www.eplixo.com/images/RadControls_editor001.jpg

If the above link does not work you should copy and paste as the link of the editor did not want to save it as I think is should be. HOwever I can attest  that the address above is the correct one.

I have experimenting with Toolstrips but this is always where I prefer a dedicated expert with the layout skills that go with you guys in Telerik

If you have any ideas on how to improve it it would be nice to hear back.

Gerry
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Mike
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answered on 24 Feb 2009, 08:02 AM
Hello Gerard Brandon,

I am able to view the image this time, thank you. Now I see that you need an HTML editor in your case. RIght now I am not able to provide you with a lot of feedback. I believe your approach is correct - you would need MSHTML control along with some WinForms toolbars (or why not a Ribbon bar) which should send commands to this control.
Currently commands and toolbars of our ASP.NET RadEditor control are coded entirerly in javascript and unfortunately this will not be of a great help in WinForms. We are looking forward, though, to poritng this code to C# in the near futire. We do not have any specific timeline yet.
Any more feedback you may have about this is welcome.

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Mike
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Gerard Brandon
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answered on 24 Feb 2009, 08:26 AM
Hi MIke

Thanks for getting back to me. I continue to explore alternatives including the one you suggested. Bugs so far include the resizing issue from one Screen Resolution to another. I can establish a reasonable layout the more it is tweaked. I fully accept the issues you have in relation to your development program but I do look forward to any advances you have.

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Chad Biggerstaff
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answered on 29 Jun 2009, 04:05 PM
I too would like to note I'm interested in a winforms control similar to the ASP.Net RadEditor control. 
There are several available RichEdit controls on the market, so I'm not so interested in rtf type functionality (why do all the suite developers have to have the same controls..).  I want a WYSIWYG HTML Editor control that has a property to return the html text.  A plus would be a tab one for html view and one for wysiwyg view. 
FYI I've been looking at what's available on the market right now and what I dislike in the available offerings are: ActiveX controls, IE requirement, and some controls reformat the supplied html when previewing/highlighting versus keeping original syntax intact.
If you could create a RadEditor type Winforms control that utilizes the installed browser for preview or some other engine (versus requiring IE which may not be shipping in win7 for Europe) I think you would have a popular control - as I can't find such a solution available today.  One of your competitors is working on an updated RichText control with html output option but it isn't an html control so isn't likely to have support for anchor tags and such.  If you can do more than a RichText control that would be great.
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Vassil Petev
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answered on 02 Jul 2009, 06:41 PM
Hello Chad Biggerstaff,

Thank you for your feedback - much appreciated. We will have it mind when discussing the work we need to do on a rich text control, be it HTML or RTF.

I would like to add just one note though which emerged during our previous internal discussion on the topic: if we are to provide a HTML editor, we will definitely use the IE engine (at least in the first versions), because it is naively supported by Windows Forms. Using Firefox or other installed browser is not an option, because this will require the installation of additional ActiveX control(s), which most of our [corporate] clients find to be a serious security risk.


Sincerely yours,
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answered on 07 Jul 2009, 10:53 PM
I would like to add my vote for a winforms html component too.

Purpose: give the user the ability to format some general texts, these will be shown in telerik reports (using the html textbox) together with some structured data. From there the reports can be either printed or emailed where the layouts have a single source and can be altered by the enduser.
Using word templates saving the output as pdf is not an option here since word does not allow master-detail mailmerge.   
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Vassil Petev
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answered on 08 Jul 2009, 04:51 PM
Thanks for your vote, Walther Siksma, we will have it in mid.


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answered on 13 Aug 2009, 03:13 PM
To confirm, this will support HTML and RTF?
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Nick
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answered on 14 Aug 2009, 09:45 AM
Hello ShawnAugust,

Currently we cannot give you more information about that. Vassil meant that our future WinForms editor should be rich in terms of features, but we have not chosen a file format yet. What do you think about the files format? Which one should we support?

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answered on 24 Aug 2009, 01:14 PM
I add my vote for this editor as well. Either HTML or RTF would be acceptable at this point. More can come later - but at least something to edit with that is better than plain text.

This thread was started in 2007, with a promise of somthing to come. Its now approach the end of Q3 2009 - any news would be greatly appreciated. Beta testing? Target release date? Should we wait for this control or should we go for another third party? Release date information will be very helpful in making this decision.

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Vassil Petev
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answered on 25 Aug 2009, 08:26 AM
Hi Dion,

For now we will suggest going with another 3rd party solution. We are leaning towards using the HTML format, rather than the somewhat outdated RTF. The reason is simple - Windows forms offer a very good HTML engine (Internet Explorer) which we can use right away. Even with this engine already available, we suspect this task to take anywhere between 9 to 12 months in order to offer a useful editor.

For Q3 2009 we plan to rework our current HTML support to be more compliant with the HTML standard. We also plan to provide a rather basic HTML editor (run-time and design-time), which will give you and your users the ability to format text directly, rather than writing HTML tags. This basic HTML editor will be a toolstrip with tools for the currently supported HTML functions, such as bold, italic, underline, font. If time permits we will add some paragraph functionality (<p> tags, paragraph indentation, bullets/lists), and may be hyperlinks.


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answered on 25 Aug 2009, 09:10 AM
Thanks for the reply. Will the improved support be included in the RadGrid and will it also handle background color and strike through - these are the two key things I really need. Without this, then I will have to go to an alternative RadGrid as well as an alternative editor. I can hang out and wait for the editor, but I would really rather use the RadGrid.
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Vassil Petev
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answered on 26 Aug 2009, 12:35 PM
Hi Dion,

Yes, the new features will be available for RadGridView. HTML support is on a framework level and all currently supported controls will get the new features automatically.

In addition, I have good news for you - after your request we decided to implement, and we did implement Strikeout and text Background Color tags. These will be available in the next internal build (next week), and ultimately in Q3 2009. Note that the internal build will *not* have the HTML editor.


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answered on 02 Sep 2009, 09:35 AM
That is really disappointing. One would expect that the major vendor would have that control for ages. It's tempting to consider moving out to DevExpress. Is there any reliable roadmap saying when such control can be available?

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Jimmy
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Dion
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answered on 02 Sep 2009, 10:10 AM
Thanks Vasil. Is there any chance of beta testing this component (Grid) - we are only a few months away from release and need to code for it now.

Looks like we will have to use DevExpress at the moment. Not so happy about this as we end up with a much larger application by having too many third party libraries and we also have to code for it and then reverse out the code at a later date. Not to mention the additional cost. But not a lot of choice.

Do you have a date for the HTML editor?
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Vassil Petev
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answered on 04 Sep 2009, 12:18 PM
@Jimmy - we discuss this topic when planning each release and every time we reach the same conclusions. For one, creating a rich text editor is not as easy as creating simple controls, such as buttons, or even a grid. We do have experience with such controls, RadEditor for ASP.NET Ajax being probably the best editor on the market, and we know that the implementation will be slow, even with all the expertise we already have.

The other thing we need to take into consideration is customer demands. The question is not why we do not have an editor for WinForms. Rather, the question is whether we should improve the existing controls in terms of performance and feature set, or focus [most of] our efforts on an editor, which will take 9-12 months to become feature complete. For now our plans are leaning towards the first option (due to numerous requests we have to improve the existing controls), but the discussion here is slowly turning our opinion around. This is why in a couple of months we will provide a rather basic HTML editor (run-time and design-time), which will give you and your users the ability to format text directly, rather than writing HTML tags. This should cover the needs of most of our clients.

Do not get me wrong - an editor for WinForms is still in our plans, and they will be discussed yet once again towards the end of the year. As soon as we have more information on this product, we will let you know.

@Dion - the basic HTML editor will be part of the Q3 release in November. We do not have a date for the beta yet, but I will update this thread once we have it. If all goes well, this will happen at the begging of October.

As to the Strikeout and text Background Color tags - these will be part of the internal build we plan to release today or on Monday.


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answered on 11 Sep 2009, 07:25 AM
Hi Vassil,

I have checked the release notes on the internal builds and there is no mention of any changes in this area. Can you please confirm that the features were in the latest internal build as you had previously suggested they may be.

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answered on 11 Sep 2009, 09:26 AM
Hello Dion,

Yes, we confirm that Strikeout and Background Color features are added to the HTML formatting feature of our TextPrimitive. It is our mistake that we missed to mention them in the release notes. You can utilize these features by using the following tags:

- <strike></strike> for Strikeout
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<bgcolor></bgcolor> for Background Color

I hope this is helpful.

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answered on 14 Dec 2009, 03:55 PM
No sign on an HTML Editor in Q3 2009 any update for a release date?
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answered on 14 Dec 2009, 04:07 PM
Hello Colin,

Thank you for contacting us. We currently provide a basic HTML-like editor for the purpose of Telerik Presentation Framework. You can read more about it here.

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answered on 12 May 2010, 04:11 PM
Hi Nick ,

is there any way to open the RadMarkupDialog not as a Dialog meaning binding it to e.g. a panel.
I do now want that the RadMarkupDialog blocks my Windows Forms Application.

Thanks for any hints.

Best

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Martin Vasilev
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answered on 18 May 2010, 11:28 AM
Hi Adrian,

Thank you for getting back to us.

RadMarkupDialog is designed as dialog form and it inherits the CommonDialog class. That is why it has only the ShowDialog method. However, there is a simple workaround to show it as normal form:
RadMarkupDialog dialog = new RadMarkupDialog();
ShapedForm form = dialog.Editor.ParentForm as ShapedForm;
form.Show();

I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.

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answered on 19 May 2010, 07:42 AM
Hi. This helps. Thank you!
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Xavier Hutchinson
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answered on 23 Jun 2010, 03:17 AM
Hi,

I'd love to have a way to display the RadMarkupEditor as a form control so that an additional popup is not nessesary and it can be placed inside my existing form, is there a way to do this at present?

Thanks,

Xavier.
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Nikolay
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answered on 23 Jun 2010, 05:17 AM
Hi Xavier Hutchinson,

Thank you for the question.

In order to use RadMarkupEditor as a control in your form, you should just create a new instance of RadMarkupEditor (but not an instance of RadMarkupDialog) and add it to the Controls collection of your form, for example:
public Form1()
{
    InitializeComponent();
  
    RadMarkupEditor editor = new RadMarkupEditor();
    editor.Dock = DockStyle.Fill;
    this.Controls.Add(editor);
}

I hope this helps.

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answered on 30 Nov 2010, 10:49 PM
Any further update on this?
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Vassil Petev
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answered on 01 Dec 2010, 02:45 PM
Hello Versile,

Your timing is perfect, because we have started researching what we can do about providing a rich text editor for Windows Forms, and

We are soliciting feedback on what features you would like to see from a Telerik WinForms rich text editor.

To do this, please open a new support ticket with subject RichTextEditor, and send us your responses of the following questions (feel free to extend these, if needed):
  1. What format would you like to save the content in (HTML, XAML, XML, DOC, DOCX, etc)?
  2. Will you need exporting functionality? If yes, what export formats will you need in your apps?
  3. What advanced editing features will you need (for example table support, image support, etc)?
  4. What is the main purpose of such a tool that you will need? For example, will you be editing documents, producing PDFs for archives, exporting data in other formats?
  5. Do you plan to integrate the rich text editor with another product (such as reporting, CRM, etc)? If yes, we will appreciate it if you give us more details about your needs.
  6. What other products have you used and what you like and dislike about them?
  7. How would you feel if we use DirectWrite (this will require Vista SP2+ or Win7). How many of your customers are still using WinXP?
  8. Would you prefer to use the new Ribbon interface, or the older menu/toolstrip setup?

We will provide you with 3000 Telerik points for your feedback. We would also prefer to keep this information private, so please send us your thoughts in a new support ticket.
 

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answered on 01 Dec 2010, 02:58 PM
LOL.  So from a post in 2007 you're only now thinking about writing one?  To be honest that's three years too late for us.  Best of luck though.
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answered on 01 Dec 2010, 11:03 PM
Hi Vassil,

I am very excited to hear that Telerik is looking at creating such a component, and please consider me to be availble to help with this in any way possible.

I have sent through my answers to your questions and I strongly encourage others to as well. This would be a fantastic addition to our toolsets.

Thanks,

Xavier.

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Vassil Petev
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answered on 02 Dec 2010, 11:25 AM
Great! Thank you, Xavier Hutchinson, for your feedback. We will add you to the list of people whom we may send something to play with once we have it.


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answered on 15 Dec 2010, 11:59 PM
Hello, I have a question how could I get the text from the  Design Mode in a RadEditor or How Could I convert the text from the HTML Mode to Word Text?. Thank you very much.


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answered on 16 Dec 2010, 12:01 AM
Excuse I forgot something when I get the text from the RadEditor, I need to keep the format from the RadWindow content.

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answered on 16 Dec 2010, 09:40 AM
Hi Victor,

It seems that your question targets our ASP.NET Ajax suite. Therefore, I would kindly ask you to post this enquiry in the appropriate ASP.NET Ajax section since the current one targets our WinForms suite. This will allow my ASP.NET colleagues to provide you with a helpful response.

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answered on 08 Feb 2011, 05:44 PM
Please also keep me informed on the development of this control. 

It would be great if the control has an integrated spellchecker and the ability to add symbols (scientific) also.

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answered on 09 Feb 2011, 01:33 PM
Will do, no worries.


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answered on 24 Feb 2011, 09:28 PM
I am currently starting a winform app that has to have 'Newsletter' creation built in and this sounds like it is just what I was hoping for. Any idea on a timeframe for a beta? Will it allow for image placement? Actually I am looking for something similar to a canvas in wpf where I can place text and graphics.
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Vassil Petev
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answered on 25 Feb 2011, 06:10 PM
Hi,

If you need a Windows Forms editor in the next few months, I am afraid that we will not be able to help you. We working on a prototype, however we cannot say yet how long before we can show anything.

I will update this thread as soon as we have more information which we can disclose.


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answered on 26 Jul 2011, 04:05 PM
Hi guys,

Have you heard the good news? Two weeks ago we released RadControls for WinForms Q2 2011 and there we introduced the first (Beta) version of RadRichTextBox for WinForms. Feel free to download the latest version and give the new components a try.

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answered on 21 Jan 2013, 11:45 AM
I would like to add my vote for a winforms html component too. Since 2009, we wait winform html component!
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answered on 23 Jan 2013, 12:31 PM
Hello Yavuz,

I am not sure what your exact requirement for an html component is, but I suppose that the RadRichTextBox for WinForms that is a part of our suite can suit your needs. This control can open and edit documents in various formats - TXT, DOC, RTF, HTML, XAML, docX, plain text. You can read more about the supported formats here. As to the HTML support in particular, please refer to this article

I hope this helps.

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