Windows 10 Cortana Interests Fail

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  1. Jonathan
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    Posted 11 Aug 2015 Link to this post

    I recently upgraded to Windows 10, and I love it so far. It appears that Cortana does not function fully for me though. I am running accountability software on my computer called X3Watch. It simply monitors all of this computer's network traffic and filters it through a proxy. Many of my previous Windows 8 (and now Windows 10) apps had to be "enabled" using Fiddler (See my link below for more info). If I click Cortana's search bar, I believe I should see several cards relating to weather, sports, etc. Right? Unfortunately, it's blank for me. All she says is "What's on your mind [name]?" If I watch the traffic in Fiddler, Cortana tries to connect to localhost:58084 via the URL /proactive?form=WNSBOX using the process searchui.exe, but unfortunately it results in an HTTP 502 error. Fiddler does not list it as a Loopback exempt app. Can anyone help? X3watch support was not helpful in solving this.

     

    Also if I go into the Cortana Notebook > Settings and disable "Cortana can give you suggestions, ideas, reminders, alerts and more" it appears to show generic cars in the Cortana bar. If I switch it back, I get nothing. If I click on the Cortana "Ask me anything" search bar, it sits there doing nothing until eventually it says "Go ahead and tell me to do something. Interests aren't available at the moment."

     

    http://www.besttechguru.com/metro-apps-not-getting-internet-access-windows-8/

     

     
  2. Eric Lawrence
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    Posted 12 Aug 2015 Link to this post

    Hi, Jonathan--

    I don't know much about how Cortana works under the covers, but I do see that in the setup you describe there is an attempt to connect to a random high-port (localhost:51618); that port is shown by netstat -a -o as LISTENING by SearchUI.exe. 

    However, the TCP/IP connection from Fiddler to the port fails, even when the Windows Firewall service is disabled.

    Stepping back a bit-- what is your goal with Fiddler here? (You shouldn't ever need to use Fiddler to make a Metro App work.)

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    Eric Lawrence
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  3. Jonathan
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    Posted 12 Aug 2015 in reply to Eric Lawrence Link to this post

    Thanks for the reply Eric. Please look at the besttechguru link that I included above in my original post. It shows how to use Fiddler to make application loopback exemptions. X3watch accountability references this site and Fiddler on their support page for enabling Windows metro apps (see other link below). 

     The same behavior that I'm seeing is like when other apps try to connect to the web when they've not been given exemptions through Fiddler. I contacted X3watch and they said I had to use a third party app to enable the functionality. This is why I'm hoping you guys might know what's going on. :)

     

    https://support.x3watch.com/hc/en-us/articles/204633320-Windows-8-and-10-Apps-Not-Connecting

  4. Eric Lawrence
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    Posted 13 Aug 2015 Link to this post

    Hi, Jonathan--

    The "besttechguru" page doesn't really understand what it is talking about; you can learn more about the EnableLoopback tool (which doesn't require Fiddler) here: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/fiddler/archive/2011/12/10/fiddler-windows-8-apps-enable-loopback-network-isolation-exemption.aspx

    The problem with Cortana talking to localhost isn't related to a loopback exemption (loopback protection is provided by the Windows Firewall service, and disabling that has no effect). 

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