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Mike
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Mike asked on 18 Feb 2016, 05:53 PM

How is it possible that we still don't have Nuget Packages and are left with manual DLL relinking when using UI for XamForms?  When Microsoft baked Nuget into Visual Studio, this was the call that all developer control and support packages NEEDED to move to Nuget too.  It feels like circa 2000 having to manually relink DLLs to upgrade controls.

What does it take to get traction on something as simple as universal Nuget support from Telerik?  

Why would one platforms controls work differently than others?

Should we take this as a sign to abandon UI for Xamarin?

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Nikolay
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answered on 19 Feb 2016, 09:20 AM
Hi Mike,

There are actually NuGet packages for UI for Xamarin that you can currently download from your Telerik account and upload to your own internal server from which you can reuse them within your company. To get the NuGet packages go to Your Account >> Products & Subscriptions >> DevCraft Ultimate >> Download Installer and Other Resources >> UI for Xamarin Cross-Platform >> Browse all product files >> Telerik_UI_for_Xamarin_2016_1_204_3_NuGet_Dev.zip.

Pretty soon (about within a month) we will also provide our own NuGet server from which you can get the latest versions of UI for Xamarin without downloading them from Telerik.com. This will let you easily update to the latest versions we release to match the latest Xamarin Forms releases.

Currently, we are working on Windows Universal support, which was the most requested feature lately. This will allow us to more easily switch to Universal Windows Platform support, once it becomes official for the Xamarin Platform. If you have other feature requests, we will gladly hear them in our UI for Xamarin Feedback Portal.

Shortly said, on top of what I mentioned above, we are not abandoning UI for Xamarin in any way, so you should not abandon it as well. It is a strong selling point for our .NET audience and we will continue investing time and efforts into developing that product further.

Regarding your feedback that 'one platforms controls work differently than others', I would be happy to hear more details about the exact behavior that you experience. In some cases, this could be because each control is built to match the look and feel of the respective platform it is run at, but your case could be something else. Please open a new support ticket where we can discuss the details and exchange projects if necessary.

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Nikolay
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answered on 22 Feb 2016, 11:54 AM

Hi Nikolay,

Great to here you are working on UWP support. Two reasons we went with Telerik and have remained a customer is you do listen to your customers and you do have excellent tech support.

In Forms, which controls are you intending to support in UWP? obviously we use Listview heavily but we also use chart and Slidedrawer. We've not used other controls like data form until we get clearer picture of what will be available in UWP.

Will the gauge controls make it into Forms? Ithey would be handy for KPI dashboard still on tablet.

Thanks,

Norman.

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Nikolay
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answered on 25 Feb 2016, 03:25 PM
Hi Norman,

The XF Windows Universal (8.1) support is already a fact as of mid-January as you can read in the Q1 2016 What's New page. We will update the SideDrawer control page shortly.

The ListView for XF Windows Universal is scheduled for beginning of May, and the XF Windows Universal support for DataForm is scheduled for beginning of September. 

Chart and Calendar are already XF WU supported. As I implied in a previous reply, the WU support will allow us to easily make what's supported for WU to become supported for UWP, once it's made official by the Xamarin Platform.

As to your last question, our Xamarin Forms UI components step on top of our iOS and Android suites. At the moment UI for Android does not offer Gauges and although it is in the general plans, it will not happen before Q2 2016 (beginning of May). Hence, we can't introduce Gauges for Xamarin Forms at the moment. Thank you for the feedback though.

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