Telerik Extensions for LightSwitch

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  1. Avrohom Yisroel
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    Posted 26 Feb 2012 Link to this post

    Maybe, maybe not. Given that LS controls are (currently) just SL controls wrapped up, it's not actually that hard to produce them. Other component vendors are doing it, and there's no reason why Telerik can't. Irrespective of what v2 brings, the SL aspect of Ls will hang around for some time to come. There's too much user code out there already.

    Bottom line is that other people are producing stuff for LS and Telerik aren't. I know who's going to get my vote!
  2. John
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    Posted 09 Mar 2012 Link to this post

    Check out DockShell

    DockShell is a LightSwitch Shell extension which wraps Telerik Rad Dock and Ribbon in a provider model.

    There is some decent funtional documentation on DockShell located here.  


    Cheers
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  4. Avrohom Yisroel
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    Posted 03 May 2012 Link to this post

    Time to raise this issue again :)

    On 22 Nov '11, Vassil said "After some internal discussion, we have decided to wait for some news on the next version of LightSwitch which will hopefully put is in a better position to plan the Telerik LightSwitch suite."

    Well, the beta of v2 has been out for some time, and it's clearly based on Silverlight. Along with the huge wave of interest there was in v1, there has been a lot of interest in v2, and Lightswitch is gaining momentum all the time.

    It's clear to everyone outside of Telerik that you are in a perfect position to create extensions for Lightswitch based on your existing Silverlight controls. Let me repeat again what has already been said in this post (and elsewhere) that I am not talking about labs showing us how to use the SL controls in LS, I'm talking about controls directly targeted at LS. This is not something that should take a great deal of time, but would be hugely useful to LS developers.

    Even if you just produce LS versions of your existing controls, and didn't give us anything else, that would be a huge productivity boost. Why aren't you doing anything? Why do we have to keep begging for something that is so straightforward for you?

    Again, other vendors are doing it, why aren't you?
  5. Nikolay
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    Posted 15 May 2012 Link to this post

    Hi there,

    I apologize for the late reply. For the time being, there is no certain plan we can reveal and commit to any delivery dates. I agree that there is a great opportunity in v2 and this is something that we'll have to thoroughly consider on our end. I hope we'll be able to share some good news soon.

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  6. Avrohom Yisroel
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    Posted 15 May 2012 Link to this post

    Nick,

    Sorry, but I for one am getting very tired of hearing the same poor excuse. How long are you going to spend considering it, when it's obvious that the product has taken off in a huge way, the next version isn't going to include any major changes that will result in your work being wasted, and your competitors are producing products whilst you sit around considering the matter.

    I went for a Telerik subscription in the first place because I was impressed with the way the company supports the community, but you've really let us down here. This constant "we're still thinking about it" attitude gives a very poor impression. If that's the best you can do, then I will be looking elsewhere when my Telerik subscription runs out.
  7. Vít Kymla
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    Posted 03 Aug 2012 Link to this post

    I'd like to second Avrohom Yisroel opinion. It's been a long time since LightSwitch was released. Now there is version 2011 and even version 2012 RC is available. Visual studio with version 2012 RTM is out and will be available on 15th August. How long will it take for Telerik to wake up and prepare some LightSwitch extension with its amazing controls we love to use? ;)
  8. John
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    Posted 03 Aug 2012 Link to this post

    Could not agree more with the excellent Telerik controls statement. Check out the DockShell Microsoft LightSwitch Shell for Telerik found at www.softlandingcanada.com called DockShell. Lots of demo videos that show you how it wraps Telerik navigation and layout controls. Provides source code for wrapper projects. Free evaluation for VS 2010 or VS 2012 RC in VB.Net or C#.
  9. dave
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    Posted 03 Aug 2012 Link to this post

    Not sure why this is such a struggle for telerik.  When the day 1 keynote at tech-ed talks about the next generation of microsoft appliations in direct referece to lightswitch I just can't understand why telerik hasn't made this a priority.

    Lightswitch is the one platform designed to help migitigate the serious risk associated with the transition happening from a PC based application world to a world of continous services and connected devices.  Lightswitch as a model driven development enviroinment allows for an application with robust services, ef, and mutliple technology specific clients.  From the desktop focus MDI style interfaces of the current silveright client to the sdi html companion to the whole list of future clients that will be added in the future focused on metro, office, and whatever other future app platforms evolve; Telerik really needs to commit to this platform embrace the opportuntity for their tools to help drive a consitent experiance across a variety of clients from a single application.

    I understand that Telerik wanted to wait and see.  I think the future path should be very clear,if not, watch the videos from teched to see why this multi-client mvvm based development platform is the safest bet for anyone making development investments right now.
  10. Alaforte
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    Posted 27 Aug 2012 Link to this post

    Any news about Lightswich in Telerik?. In particoular I'm interested in web development with html 5 kendo controls.
  11. Nikolay
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    Posted 27 Aug 2012 Link to this post

    Hi there,

    Our position remains the same at this stage.

    "For the time being, there is no certain plan we can reveal and commit to any delivery dates. I agree that there is a great opportunity in v2 and this is something that we'll have to thoroughly consider on our end. I hope we'll be able to share some good news soon".

    We will make sure to follow up in this thread for any updates.
     
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  12. sadasd assadasd
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    Posted 16 Oct 2012 Link to this post

    A treeview is really a major control missing from the lightswitch default control set. having one is really a great value...
  13. Avrohom Yisroel
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    Posted 31 Dec 2012 Link to this post

    Forget it, they aren't interested.

    Well, my subscription has just expired, and I'm off to see what the other vendors are doing. If Telerik aren't going to support Lightswitch, I'll move to someone who does.
  14. ShareDocs
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    Posted 28 Feb 2013 Link to this post

    Hi,
    anything new? 
    is there's a chance to get a working example of teleriks gridview in lightswtich as an extension rather that custom user control?
    I tried to make it work (partly succeeded using custom user control but it is not fit to my project needs of elasticity).

    how do i get it to work without moving to infragistics/componentone alternatives... 

    any help will be much appreciated
  15. dave
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    Posted 15 Mar 2013 Link to this post

    With the new HTML client any jquery or jquery mobile control can be used. I'm not sure if this makes the story from telerick any better. My volume licenses are expiring and I'd like to understand how you can support the future of sharepoint and office development before choosing to renew. Any insights into telerik and the HTML lightswitch would be appreciated
  16. Sebastian
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    Posted 21 Mar 2013 Link to this post

    Hello Paul,

    Although we have not tested extensively our Kendo UI framework in MS Lightswitch (HTML version), we have not received any reports for issues in this dev environment. Since our framework is based on jQuery core, as long as Lightswitch supports jQuery, we should be compatible with it either.

    As for our future support for SharePoint 2013 and Office 365 - you should be able to integrate Kendo UI in both, provided they are extendable with client libraries based on jQuery. Also note that older versions of SharePoint and web parts development, along with ready-to-use web parts, are supported by our ASP.NET AJAX controls.

    Best regards,
    Sebastian
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  17. Christian
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    Posted 26 Mar 2013 Link to this post

    Hello
    After half a year a demand (the last message is from August 27, 2012): Is there something new? For years I use the components in Windows Forms and Web projects. A seamless integration in LightSwitch would be very helpful.
    I would be grateful for any information.
    Christian Rudat
  18. Dimitrina
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    Posted 29 Mar 2013 Link to this post

    Hello,

    I'm afraid that we do not have Lightswitch extensions and/or examples related to Lightswitch extensions. You can check this page for more information about how to integrate various Telerik Silverlight components with Lightswitch. 

    Regards,
    Didie
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  19. Christian
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    Posted 04 Apr 2013 Link to this post

    Hello
    This is a little sad. Telerik's motto is "deliver more than expected", here is it 'deliver less than needed'. I think LightSwitch is a significant way to the fast developing smaller applications. For this reason, other vendors have tools on sale. But I want to use only one tool set. I believe that the development in the field of WinForms will grind to a halt. Therefore, it should give the opportunity, to expand the LightSwitch support. It would be nice if there was a statement about the planning.
    With kind regards
    Christian Rudat
  20. Zack
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    Posted 11 Apr 2013 Link to this post

    Can someone tell me how to edit the control for RadTimePicker in lightswitch. I know lightswitch doesn't expose XAML but I need to change the default to 24 hour format and I cannot find info on how to accomplish this.
    Thanks
  21. ShareDocs
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    Posted 13 Apr 2013 Link to this post

    Zack hi,
    I think it's best that you start a new thread so this thread will be dedicated to any change telerik might do regarding lightswitch.

    as for your question:
    if you do it through a user control please follow the instructions on: Lightswitch RC - Costum Control - Telerik Grid . do read the whole thread before trying to build it yourself, as it states the difference between LS 2011 and LS 2012.

    Another way to accomplish this is by a lightswitch extension - Walkthrough: Creating a Value Control Extension.

    Bare in mind that LightSwitch integration is not fully supported.
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