Support for generic push notifications

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  1. Jean-Pascal van der Endt
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    Posted 28 Jan 2013 Link to this post

    Hi,

    We've been looking at Icenium and we are confident that it will give us a major productivity boost for developing mobile apps on multiple platforms. We are already familiar with Kendo UI, and Kendo + Icenium looks impressive! 

    We are at the planning stage for building new business apps, and there is one thing that makes it really difficult for us to choose Icenium: our apps are based on push notifications.

    I've seen some discussion about push notifications in one of the other forum threads, and I've voted for it in Icenium Feedback, but I'm wondering if you can help us decide. If we know that we can expect push notification support in an upcoming release within the next few months, that helps in choosing a platform, and planning our development.

    Someone asked if there should be support for third party notifications like Pushwoosh, rather than native APNS/GCM. I'm not sure to what extent this is important to know from the perspective of the app, but I would prefer to see generic support, rather than being forced to use a third party service. If anything, we would be inclined to bet on Azure Mobile Services as a platform for push notifications.

    Any insight into planning or roadmaps regarding push notification support is highly appreciated. Thanks!

    -JP
  2. Jan-Dirk
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    Posted 29 Jan 2013 Link to this post

    Interesting that you are asking this the day before Phonegap build starts supporting a generic Push notifications plugin: https://build.phonegap.com/blog/introducing-genericpush-plugin

    @devgirlFL explains how to use it: http://devgirl.org/2013/01/24/push-notifications-plugin-support-added-to-phonegap-build/

    Here is what I did: I build my app completely in Icenium, then exported the source code and copied into an Xcode project for iOS development and in Eclipse for Android development. I used Pushwoosh btw.
  3. Stefan Dobrev
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    Posted 29 Jan 2013 Link to this post

    Hi guys,

    I can assure you that we do plan to support Push Notifications plugin as this is the next big thing requested by our community. Our upcoming release (expected in the first half of Feb) will include support for Barcode Scanner and SQLite plugins, the one after that will expand with Push Notifications.

    I should mention that we tend to release every 6-8 weeks so you can do the math from there.

    I would also like to thank you guys for sharing this feedback with us. We are closely listening and trying to grow Icenium the way you want it. You know it is still a young product and you have the power to shape its future.

    ... and JD thanks for being our most active community member. It is greatly appreciated.

    Stay tuned,
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  4. Jean-Pascal van der Endt
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    Posted 29 Jan 2013 Link to this post

    Hi Jan-Dirk and Stefan,

    Thank you both - your responses are both very helpful. Stefan, we're looking forward to seeing the April-ish release, but it's already good to know that it's coming: I'm trying to make a case for Icenium within my project team and this makes it look even better.

    If you have early docs to share, or if you need specific feedback on the scenario we are aiming for (or JD's for that matter), please let us know!

    Thanks,
    JP
  5. Stefan Dobrev
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    Posted 31 Jan 2013 Link to this post

    Hello guys,

    Can you please look at the PushPlugin (the one that JD points to) and see if it is going to work for your cases?

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  6. Jan-Dirk
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    Posted 31 Jan 2013 Link to this post

    Stefan,

    The plugin you refer to will probably do what we need, but to me it is not clear how notifications can be send.

    For my companies app I have been using Pushwoosh, you might want to look into that. The integration is maybe even easier than this one and sending notifications is very easy through their member-site. They also have an API for paying member to integrate notifications in your own websites/projects...

    At least I appreciate that you investigate in what we think and consult us for this plug-in!

    Anxious to see other peoples suggestions/experiences.
  7. Kevin
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    Posted 17 Apr 2013 Link to this post

    I realize this is a fairly old topic, but I could not find any newer info about this. We need push notifications to work and need to know if they are implemented yet, if so where would i find documentation / examples of them?

    Thanks!
  8. Jan-Dirk
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  9. Kevin
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    Posted 18 Apr 2013 Link to this post

    Thank you! that's exactly what I was looking for. the way it was referred in previous posts made it sounds like it was some third party plugin. 

    Quick question though, after reading through it a bit. It deals a lot of graphite specifically. Thus far I've worked solely in the Mist editor, I haven't configured any provisioning profiles etc. Is push notifications something that requires graphite to accomplish?
  10. Gilles
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    Posted 08 Jan 2014 Link to this post

    Hello guys,

    quite an 'old' post here but I've got a specific question which I think needs no new post about the subject.

    The example implementation quoted here ( http://www.icenium.com/blog/icenium-team-blog/2013/04/17/push-notifications-with-cordova-icenium ) relies on node.js, which is perfectly fine if you've got your own server on which you're an admin. What if you have to use a mutualized webserver, where you will only have, e.g., an Apache server with PHP ?

    I'm totally new to node.js (just tried it on my own laptop), but I already see that no standard web hosting company seems to offer hosting for node.js on mutualized environments (ok, as far as I googled ^^). There are specialized hosting possibilities for node.js only ( https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Node-Hosting ) but if possible, I'd like to stick to what we already have in my firm.

    So the question is : is there any known implementation of a similar push server for our beloved hybrid apps, but written in PHP ?

    Thanks in advance !
  11. Steve
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    Posted 08 Jan 2014 Link to this post

    Hello Gilles,

    There are PN implementations for various languages and environments (not to mention a ton of 3rd party services for push notifications), we decided to show the tutorial in node.js as it can be easily tested on your local machine. Finding the one that is right for your case is up to the developer according to the available setup. A quick search finds this implementation for PHP (http://code.google.com/p/php-apns/)

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    Steve
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