Estimate Total Rollup: Tasks --> Parent Story

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  1. paul
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    Posted 12 Feb 2014 Link to this post

    Fellow TeamPulsers:

    I've looked for this feature, but have yet to find it - a story estimate total that derives its value by summating the estimates from all of the attached subtasks.

    This would be very valuable for my team.  We use a rule of thumb that stories should always be decomposed to task pieces that are no longer than 3 days of work each.  This is our balance point of granularity vs. speed of estimating.

    More often than not, we find that stories are substantially larger than originally thought once we decompose work to 3-day pieces.  Accordingly, it would be very helpful to have the parent story work estimate auto-update with a sum of all its children tasks.

  2. Vesna
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    Posted 18 Feb 2014 Link to this post

    Hello Paul
    Thanks for contacting and giving your feedback.

    In answer to your question, whether story estimates are driven by task estimate roll-ups, the answer is different, and it changes based on the team preference, maturity and methodology they use.

    Currently TeamPulse let teams use different metrics for planning and estimate of story - like points, and hours - for planning and tracking task. As those values not necessary are in same metrics, the roll ups might not work as expected.

    What we plan to implement is to have to values for the Story item. One to be the initial estimate base on the units you use and the other to be Story task estimate – the second one will be a roll up from all the tasks related to that story. This way, both values will be visible and be an object of future analysis and comparison.

    Will this feature be valuable for you?

    Thanks a lot,

    Vesna Telerik

  3. paul
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    Posted 18 Feb 2014 in reply to Vesna Link to this post

    >>What we plan to implement is to have to values for the Story item. One to be the initial estimate base on the units you use and the other to be Story task estimate – the second one will be a roll up from all the tasks related to that story. 


    Vesna: yes.  This roll up total of all story tasks would be perfect!  

    Your plan to have two values, one manual and one derived, makes good sense to me.  For my teams' purposes, we would use those two values for showing 'High-Level Estimate / Story Points', 'Technical-Level Estimate / Total Effort Required'.   








  4. paul
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    Posted 18 Feb 2014 in reply to Vesna Link to this post

    Vesna:  when would Telerik implement this roll up calculation in TeamPulse?  In 2014?
  5. Vesna
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    Posted 19 Feb 2014 Link to this post

    Hi Paul,
    I am glad, that the proposed solution will help you.
    In answer to your question , yes, we plan the implementation for the first half of this year.


    Regards,
    Vesna
    Telerik
  6. neil
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    Posted 09 Jun 2015 in reply to Vesna Link to this post

    Hi Vesna - we just upgraded to the latest version of teampulse, and I cannot find how to do show the story and task estimates together.  Is there an example for how to set this up?
  7. Vesna
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    Posted 12 Jun 2015 Link to this post

    Hello Neli,

    Which version have you upgrade to?
    Here are the easiest steps to set a view where stories and tasks estimates are in one view.

     1 . Create a list view  - how to:  http://docs.telerik.com/teampulse/user-guide/interface-guide/views/Lists

     2. Select the following filters: 
        -  Type: story
    3. Select the following columns:
         - Estimates
         - Task count
         - Task estimates

    This should present the overall view of Stories with their estimates and a rollup of task estimates and count for each story.

    Let us know if the proposed solution work for your case of tracking.

    Regards,

    Vesna
    Telerik
     
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