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Answer Telerik Admin Master
Posted on Mar 25, 2008 (permalink)

We are very pleased to announce the availability of our new “Futures” build of RadControls “Prometheus”. This is a preview build for our Q1 2008 Release and includes latest developments on all controls in the suite. We are dedicated to involve the community with our progress and hear your feedback on the new features and improvements we have been working on.

The new “Futures” build introduces a preview of several key additions to the “Prometheus” suite – RadToolbar, RadPanelbar, RadTabstrip as well as the new RadFormDecorator control which allows for skinning of basic button, checkboxes, and radiobuttons. These controls now take full advantage of ASP.NET AJAX framework and have significantly improved client-side behavior. Performance and HTML output has also been improved across all new Prometheus products. The “Futures” also bring latest enhancements in the rest of the Prometheus controls as well as updated installer and documentation.

The “Futures Build” (Telerik.Web.UI_2008_1_325) is now available for download in your Client.Net accounts. Please see attached screenshot.

See online demos at:
http://www.telerik.com/demos/aspnet/prometheus-futures

Your feedback will be highly appreciated – please do not hesitate to share any suggestions or comments you might have.

Please note that this is a work-in-progress and some of the features are still in development and QA.

RadToolBar

·         New semantic rendering for minimal HTML output and full accessibility
·         New item types - DropDown and SplitButton (dropdown items)
·         New client-side rendering, persistence of items added client-side
·         New client-side events and extended client-side API
·         Custom attributes
·         Expand/Collapse animations for dropdown items
·         State-related images and classes (HoveredImageUrl, CheckedImageUrl, DisabledImageUrl, HoveredCssClass, CheckedCssClass, HoveredCssClass)
·         Navigation - button items (RadToolBarButton and RadToolBarSplitButton) have a NavigateUrl and Target properties to navigate to a specified URL
·         Loading content from XML file and outputting content as XML
·         Visual Studio Design time support and item builder

RadPanelBar

·         New client-side rendering, persistence of items added client-side
·         New client-side events and extended client-side API
·         New property of RadPanelItem - PreventCollapse - by default it is set to false. If it is true item will not be collapsed
·         New property of RadPanelBar -AllowCollapseAllItems -This allows all items to be collapsed even if the panelbar's ExpandMode is set to SingleExpandedItem or FullExpandedItem

RadTabStrip

·         New client-side rendering, persistence of items added client-side
·         New client-side events and extended client-side API
·         Templates
·         Improved scrolling - scrolling arrows are rendered only when needed
·         Improved skinning - every skin defines the appearance for all 4 types of orientation

RadFormDecorator

RadFormDecorator is part of Telerik "Prometheus" suite that enables CSS skinning of checkboxes (<asp:CheckBox />), radiobuttons (<asp:RadioButton />) and buttons (<asp:Button />) without generating any additional Html elements - hidden inputs, div's, etc. Thus, it integrates seamlessly into the page and doesn't require any changes to the existing page's layout.

Here are the main features of the control:

·         12 skins
·         Hover/Out states for the buttons using pure CSS
·         Caching of images for IE6 for smooth user experience
·         CSS for disabled radiobuttons, checkboxes and buttons
·         Various CSS look & feel improvements

RadEditor (updates)

·         New dialog caching mechanism - dialogs will not reload when opened again, all changes are made client-side and persisted after close
·         New a style builder dialog
·         Added AjaxSpellLoaded event, exposed the AjaxSpellCheck object in the public API
·         Added OnClientPasteHtml, OnClientInit events
·         Added CssClasses support (same as RadEditor classic)
·         Added CustomDropdowns (same as RadEdiotr Classic)
·         Added a new property – EditorFilters - you can set which content filters will be active when the editor loads. Also added EnableFilter and DisableFilter methods to the editor server API
·         Fixed a couple of XHTML compliance issues
·         Fixed an issue when setting the width and height properties
·         Fixed a couple of issues with span tags in FireFox
·         Fixed a problem with the spell checker in a specific scenario when it tried to check JavaScript code and html comments.
·         Fixed a problem when uploading files and only one folder is in the upload paths list

RadChart (updates)

·         AutoLayout functionality - The AutoLayout functionality instructs the control to perform out-of-the-box layout arrangement that provides optimal utilization of the whole chart area and ensures that all chart elements are fully readable and do not overlap with one another.
·         Zooming / Scrolling functionality - allowing users to explore portions of large charts in more detail with excellent performance. The user can zoom to a portion of the chart by dragging and selecting with the mouse (see left-most image below) to set a new scale for the chart. AJAX retrieves the visible "chunk" of the chart that was selected. The user can continue to navigate the chart by scrolling.
·         Fixed an issue in programmatic databinding to LINQ queries.
·         Fixed serialization exception with StateServer / SqlServer session state and storing the viewstate in session via PageStatePersister.
·         Fixed an issue with high CPU usage for pie chart in certain cases
·         Fixed a DataBinding issue when changing datasources

RadGrid (updates)

·         Global ItemTemplate for GridTableView - When an item template is set all GridDataItems/GridEditableColumns (auto-generated or declarative) will be replaced with a single cell which will be used as a container for the templated content.
·         NestedViewTemplate (detail table template)
·         Footer aggregates - Provides an intuitive method to define aggregates per column from design time and render the results inside the respective column's footer. Aggregate calculations are supported for GridBoundColumns and GridCalculatedColumns.
·         Group footers and aggregates - In addition to displaying summaries/results from aggregates in the group header, RadGrid exposes group footers feature which provides the option to render footer under each group in the grid
·         PopUp edit form - RadGrid supports editing items in a popup edit form. When an item is put in edit mode RadGrid will display a popup with the edit form.
·         Calculated columns - You can sort, group and/or filter these columns exactly in the same way as GridBoundColumn
·         Confirm with RadWindow for GridButtonColumn and GridClientDeleteColumn
·         Insert Item Positioning - Insert item will be rendered either on top or under grid's results
·         Expand/collapse of Grid's filtering item - lets you expand or collapse grid's filtering item
·         RadMenu as filtering menu - RadGrid's filtering menu is now replaced by RadContextMenu
·         Optimized databinding

RadScheduler (updates)

·         Grouping by resource is now supported in all views
·         Support for two grouping modes - horizontal and vertical
·         The advanced template is now available as a set of user controls for easier customization
·         New view type - timeline view (work in progress)
·         Complex properties for more flexible control on the configuration of each view type (work in progress)

RadAjax (updates)

·         Ajax requests queuing
RadCalendar (updates)

·         Public Holidays -- RadCalendar now supports Repeatable Holidays that allow you to define holiday events repeated each year.
RadSplitter (updates)

·         Updated SlidingPanes rendering
·         Fixed a couple of XHTML compliance issues

RadWindow (updates)

·         Support for restriction zones
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Anders M.

Posted on Mar 25, 2008 (permalink)

Will you by any chance be publishing a non .exe installer and a .zip file instead? Thank you..

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Shaun Peet MVP

Posted on Mar 25, 2008 (permalink)

The new installation screens are nice!

Will the default installation path be changing for the official release? I noticed that the futures build is still using Telerik/RadControls 'Prometheus' for ASP.NET Q1 2008 as the installation folder. Will it become Telerik/RadControls for ASP.NET AJAX Q1 2008?

Is the rotator a dead product or will it be coming into the ASP.NET AJAX realm as well? If so, when?

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skysailor Intermediate

Posted on Mar 26, 2008 (permalink)

There is no mention here of an update to the RadColorPicker being able to pick any RGB vlaue. Is this still on the Q1 todo list?

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MB Master

Posted on Mar 26, 2008 (permalink)

The fun begins... I no longer have an excuse to put off migrating to the new controls... now that the Panelbar and Tabstrip are there.

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Mark Griebling Master

Posted on Mar 26, 2008 (permalink)

Same here. But I had integrated some of the other controls. It will be nice to have just Prometheus.

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MB Master

Posted on Mar 27, 2008 (permalink)

I was just going through the documentation and stumbled across the server item:

Telerik.Web.UI.HtmlParsing

I have no idea how long that's been available, but it just so happened that I was looking for a HTML parser today, so naturally it caught my eye.

The documentation is... rather skimpy... are there any examples of what this can be used for ??

My own requirements are that I need to load an HTML document, and then heavily manipulate it at the server, before saving the modified version... based on tags, and parent/child relationships etc etc... usual DOM type stuff... but at the server.

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Mar 27, 2008 (permalink)

Hi all,

Thank you for the feedback!

@Anders: we are only providing an EXE distribution for now. We have implemented a new installer for RadControls -- please try it out and send us feedback before the official release. The new installer is much faster than before (depending on your machine you'll need about 3-4 minutes to install and uninstall) and has a brand new interface (we are still polishing it)

@Shaun: yes, when we change to the official name (RadControls for ASP.NET AJAX) and drop the "Prometheus" codename a couple of things will change, one of them being the installation folder.

RadRotator will be added to the ASP.NET AJAX suite with our next release. It will have significant improvements over the current implementation. Please, stay tuned for more details in a couple of months.

@Clayton: I am still not sure if this will make it in the Q1 release. We have several things on the ToDo list for RadColorPicker - we will do our best to implement all of them in the coming weeks.

@Mike: The Telerik.Web.UI.HtmlParsing namespace contains internal classes used by RadSpell. These classes do not contain a full-blown HTML parser, but are only intended to support the extraction of meaningful words from received HTML. If you need full HTML editing capabilities, you could check these sites:
http://www.koders.com/csharp/fidCBB3C224CBBC330C8E738129BA2169022428EDF8.aspx?s=mdefAinsert
(an HtmlTokenizer, created by Nikhil Kothari) and http://www.xmlforasp.net/codeSection.aspx?csID=94
(SGML reader, created by Chris Lovett)

We are looking forward to more of your feedback as we make final polishing on the Q1 release. Thank you!

Greetings,
Ivo
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Anders M.

Posted on Mar 27, 2008 (permalink)

@Ivo: I installed it, renamed the folder and un-installed it again without a hassle – and all the files where left as I had extracted a file, so yes – the installer is better!

Btw, I just tried to convert to the new editor last night, but shortly stopped because ShowSubmitCancelButtons="true" is not supported and there were no quick sample on how to convert the ribbon'ish toolbar. I see the new toolbar is full-blown so I will just wait for the sample, but I think it’s a shame about the submit/cancel buttons since the documentation states that they have been dismissed.

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Mar 27, 2008 (permalink)

Hi Anders,

RadEditor "Prometheus" was intended to be as simple to configure as possible - and we decided to follow the familiar pattern of TextBox as this is in fact how the editor is used in almost all cases. The development paradigm is that the editor is a part of a larger page that has some other means of making a postback or a callback - and the editor should not interfere in it. Thus, the Submit and Cancel buttons were removed.

You can easily implement a custom Save button in the editor (even simpler than usual, as there is CSS in the editor that will style a tool called Save for you automatically). In case you wish to go this way and want to have a Save tool on the toolbar that will submit the page and you need our help with it - please let us know and we will help you out.

You can also test the examples located in the Getting/Setting Content section of the RadControls "Prometheus" Quick Start Framework which demonstrates how to save the editor's content through a standard Asp:Button.

Other than that, at present we do not intend to re-implement the Submit and Cancel buttons into the Prometheus editor.

The current version of RadEditor "Prometheus" does not feature the requested Ribbonbar toolbar. This feature is in our ToDo list and it will appear in one of the upcoming RadEditor "Prometheus" versions.

Kind regards,
Rumen
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MB Master

Posted on Mar 28, 2008 (permalink)

I posted a comment about the new PanelBar:

http://www.telerik.com/community/forums/thread/b311D-bcmmmh.aspx

However, posting into the PanelBar foler was probably a dumb thing to do, given that this is a futures build.

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Jason Maronge MVP

Posted on Mar 28, 2008 (permalink)

Telerik,

Again you have delivered more than expected. I know I am not the only one that has been waiting for something like the FormDecorator. Way to go on this one. Looks very promising and will save people a lot of time. Can't wait to start using it.

Thanks,

Jason

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horsted

Posted on Mar 31, 2008 (permalink)

Hi,
I'm pretty sure that i have seen an feature to RadEditor about resizing and cropping in the announcement here (or on telerikwatch). I was sooooo happy - but now its gone... Was it something i dreamt?

/horsted

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Mar 31, 2008 (permalink)

Hi Horsted,

Indeed, RadEditor "Prometheus" will feature a new Image Editor dialog that will enable the end user to resize and crop images. This dialog will be ready for the official release of RadControls "Prometheus", due in mid April, 2008.

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Rumen
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Shaun Peet MVP

Posted on Mar 31, 2008 (permalink)

That just might be...

The best kept secret...

ever...

I would be more than happy to test this for you guys in a RadControls For ASP.NET AJAX Q1 2008 Futures SP1 Release ;) ... say ... this Friday?

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Mar 31, 2008 (permalink)

Hi Shaun,

Actually, this is not secret because the information about the Image Editor is listed in the Roadmap section of Telerik.com, e.g.

RadEditor will have two new dialogs for Style and Image editing as well as improvements in script loading and performance.

I am not sure when the dialog will be ready for testing, because it is currently in development stage. Nevertheless, once it becomes ready and we have a stable build for test, I will send it to you.

Greetings,
Rumen
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Shaun Peet MVP

Posted on Mar 31, 2008 (permalink)

My bad Rumen. It is well hidden in there though - back in the day it was a highly anticipated and highly hyped feature. I will hold my breath until it's in my impatient hands ;)

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netops netops

Posted on Mar 31, 2008 (permalink)

Does this release include deployment to MOSS as webparts and/or site features for all of the components and/or a subset, and not just the current RadEditor as it stands today? I was told that enabling as many components as possible for deployment to MOSS was an important goal for Telerik based on customer feedback.

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David Pike

Posted on Mar 31, 2008 (permalink)

Can someone perhaps tell me WHERE this is? I cannot find it anywhere on the Telerik site, and not under my account for Prometheus either.

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EricSch

Posted on Mar 31, 2008 (permalink)

Thanks for this release. It seems to go into the right direction.

I have some issues.

RadGrid:

- A error during databinding. I posted a support ticket

- Aggregate columns: Greate future, but I have problems to use it. a "[InvalidCastException: Specified cast is not valid.]" is thrown over a simple System.Double column. And how it will work with a formatted column?

- I used a hack to remove the "Add new record" button in the header, but this doesn't work anymore. (LinkButton LinkButton1 = e.Item.FindControl("InitInsertButton") as LinkButton;)

RadToolbar: Why there's a RadMenu? Do they not have a similar function?

Some suggestions:
- Better "editable" columns. Ex. When I have a formatted currency column (DataFormatString="{0:C2}"), I need to use a template column for editing, because a input string like "CHF 10.50" will not be accepted. Same thing for a GridDateTimeColumn.
Why not use the DataFormatString to format and 'unformat' a value?

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Apr 1, 2008 (permalink)

Hello Eric,

Straight onto your questions:

- Both data-binding and "InitInsertButton" problems where fixed.

- Please send us small example which demonstrates the cast exception.

- We will add FooterTextFormat for the official release - currently this can be achieve only using ItemDataBound

- I'm not sure about the currency column problem - do you have such string as value in your data? I believe that you can use pure numeric values instead of strings and format these for presentation only.

- As per your question about RadToolBar - actually its dropdowns items are different from RadMenu in terms of hierarchy and item content. RadToolBar is not a fully hierarchical control - RadToolBarDropDown and RadToolBarSplitButton can contain only buttons. The difference is that in RadToolBar you can define a validation group (we're still working on polishing that) for each button. In RadMenu the ValidationGroup is applied to the entire control.

I hope this helps.

Kind regards,
Erjan Gavalji
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Rowland O'Connor

Posted on Apr 1, 2008 (permalink)

Not to worry. I found it in the end.

I cannot see this to download anywhere in my Client.net area.

Any ideas?

Rowland

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Apr 1, 2008 (permalink)

Hi Rowland O'Connor,

The RadControls Prometheus Futures build should be available under your Client.net account -> My Licenses -> My Purchases -> RadControls Prometheus section (expanding the Downloads tab). See the screenshot from the first post in this thread for more info.

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Stephen
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EricSch

Posted on Apr 1, 2008 (permalink)

Hello Erjan Gavalji,

Thanks for answering.

>> Please send us small example which demonstrates the cast exception.

Where I can send it? Support Ticket or here in the thread?

>> We will add FooterTextFormat for the official release - currently this can be achieve only using ItemDataBound.

My question was more, what happens, if the number Column is formatted, ex. as Currency. Will the aggregate function still work?

>> I'm not sure about the currency column problem - do you have such string as value in your data?

You are correct. But in my case the value is a pure number, formatted and shown as currency. But when you edit the row, the value is shown as 'CHF 12.23'.
The problem is now, that only numbers are accepted as input, not for ex. 'CHF 14'. So I need a TemplateColumn to show the editable value as '12.23'. This is for me an extra overhead.

Thanks
Eric

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Apr 1, 2008 (permalink)

Hello EricSch,

>You can attach the sample project to a formal support ticket.

>The property will actually be called FooterAggregateFormatString and will appear with the Q1 2008 release of RadGrid, expected in the middle of April. The declarative aggregates should work with DataFormatString applied as well.

>Do you use RadNumericColumn when encountering this behavior? It should display merely numeric value in edit mode. Does the same issue occur with standard MS GridView control? I will appreciate if you post a small demo project, exhibiting the strange issue, attached to a formal support ticket. I will examine it carefully and will advice you further.

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Anders M.

Posted on Apr 1, 2008 (permalink)

Do we post "bugs" here?

1) Javascript error: Occurs after edit using pop-up – the form is closed but the datetime picker class is initialized.

Error at: Telerik.Web.UI.RadDateTimePicker.registerClass("Telerik.Web.UI.RadDateTimePicker",Telerik.Web.UI.RadDatePicker);

2) If the insert form is open (pop-up mode) the edit form can be opened at the same time and vise-verca. Probably not by design. Multi line edit is not enabled and only one edit pop-up can be opened.

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Apr 1, 2008 (permalink)

Hello Anders,

- Unfortunately I was unable to reproduce the javascript error you are getting on my end. Can you please send us a simple project (attached to formal ticket) that reproduces this issue?

- To you other question. Actually this is expected behavior and it is the same as in other type of edit forms (InPlace, EditFroms).

Kind regards,
Rosen
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james

Posted on Apr 1, 2008 (permalink)

Hi,

I was install Prometheus version Q1 2008,.

I try built my project written with Prometheus Q3 2007, but without success.

Class ChartSkin(Telerik.Charting.Styles.ChartSkin) is inaccessiable due its protection level.

Regrads,

J

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Apr 2, 2008 (permalink)

Hi James,

Indeed, this issue is present in the "Futures" version. You can open a formal support ticket to get the latest build where this issue is fixed. Please, accept our apologies for the inconvenience caused. Your Telerik points have been updated.

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Ves
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james

Posted on Apr 2, 2008 (permalink)

Hi,

Where can I open formal support ticket?

I was open "My Support Tickets" in My Client profile. But there I hasn't found anything to open support ticket.

Regrads,

J

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Telerik Admin
Posted on Apr 3, 2008 (permalink)

Hello James,

In "My Support tickets" under the blue text My Support you will find 4 links, you can use the second one "Submit a support ticket".

All the best,
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Philippe

Posted on Apr 3, 2008 (permalink)

Hi there,

We were surprised when we saw there was no mention of Resize for RadDocks in this version. This feature has been requested commonly in the forums and it has been delayed quite a few times.

Can you confirm wether this feature will be part of the 2008 Q1 release or not?

Thank you for your time.

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Anders M.

Posted on Apr 3, 2008 (permalink)

Is the ToolBar feature complete as it is now?

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Apr 4, 2008 (permalink)

Hi all,

@Philippe: Resizing of RadDock will be included in the official release in a couple of weeks. We are now finishing up the implementation and testing it.

@Anders: These are the Toolbar features that are missing in the "Futures" release and will be added for the official one:
- Keyboard Support
- Right-to-Left Support
- Validation
- ImagePosition
- DefaultButton behavior of the split button

I saw earlier in the thread a question about MOSS: We are preparing the DNN and MOSS wrappers for Prometheus and they will be available around the end of April (a couple of weeks after Q1 Release)

All the best,
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Philippe

Posted on Apr 4, 2008 (permalink)

Dear Telerik,

Thank you for your positive answer, we really appreciate it.

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bslaght Master

Posted on Apr 11, 2008 (permalink)

HI Guys,
I know I am bleeding edge here, so feel free to tell me if I am asking to much, however i need more info about this stuff:

Footer aggregates - Provides an intuitive method to define aggregates per column from design time and render the results inside the respective column's footer. Aggregate calculations are supported for GridBoundColumns and GridCalculatedColumns.

Group footers and aggregates - In addition to displaying summaries/results from aggregates in the group header, RadGrid exposes group footers feature which provides the option to render footer under each group in the grid

---I have a table which has a templatecolumn which contains a checkbox, I also have two columns that have prices in them. What I would like to do in the footer is when the checkbox is click (therefore selecting the row) I would like the total of the price columns in the footer to update to reflect all the selected rows.

Problem I don't even know how to get just a regular sum of the whole column in the footer let alone do the fancy stuff I mention above. Please advise.

Brett

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Telerik Admin

Posted on Apr 14, 2008 (permalink)

Hi bslaght,

The aggregates can be applied to any column (with or without grouping). If you have grouping, you may also enable the group footers, to host these aggregates. Alternatively, you may simply show the aggregates for a whole column, in the control's footer, as shown here.
Additionally, since you also mentioned a different functionality, you may consider using client side script, to achieve this task. The following article shows a dynamic implementation of updating the values in a footer control of RadGrid.
I hope this information helps.

Greetings,
Yavor
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J-P Minderhoud

Posted on Apr 15, 2008 (permalink)

Hi,

Maybe a bit late in the day for the official release, but I ran into the following 'issue'.
I have a RadTabStrip on a page but I don't want to use the default skins and styling, so I set the EnableEmbeddedSkins to false. All fine. Then I wanted to change the cssclasses for the tabs, that can be done very well by setting them for each tab individually. But when you have a whole lot of tabs this gets frustrating when you have to make changes.

I thought it might be an idea to have a TabStyle property for the RadTabStrip, like ItemStyle for RadGrid, so you can easily set all the styling settings for all tabs at once.

Regards,
J-P

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